Royal Enfield Himalayan Electric using Stark parts

We know Royal Enfield invested in Stark and we can see why now.

The latest development versions of the HIM-E looks to have two Stark batteries side-by-side. The split-lines are identical. They do have a new design for the outer cover with the same style as the Flying Flea.



What else is identical? I see a Start drivetrain so it'll be 80 hp. The right side gear cover and the left sprocket cover are Stark parts. The water cooling system looks the same too, with identical hoses. Any other parts you see?

Royal Enfield haven't released any specs but from these pics, it'll be 80 hp and 15 kWh. Weight is going to be at least that of a Stark plus extra battery, so that's 150kg min. It looks chunkier so I'm guess more than that.

Those are comparable specs to a Zero DSR but it's Royal Enfield, so probably going to be more affordable.

2 Stark batterys as you can clearly see on other pictures.

I really like this bike.

Erwin P said:

2 Stark batterys as you can clearly see on other pictures.

I really like this bike.

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it is a brilliant machine.

If this has proper speed normal charging, fast DC charging and remains in the 200-220 kg category it might very wel be my next ADV bike.

14,4kW (double Stark EX) is a bit meager though. However i could maybe live with that with proper chargerates. If 20kW and said conditions i just need to find the funds...

Yeah for an ADV bike I'd like to at least go 100 or even 150 miles on a charge. I don't think 14.4kwh will cut it. The Energica Experia has like 21kwh

Erwin P said:

If this has proper speed normal charging, fast DC charging and remains in the 200-220 kg category it might very wel be my next ADV bike.

14,4kW (double Stark EX) is a bit meager though. However i could maybe live with that with proper chargerates. If 20kW and said conditions i just need to find the funds...

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What is for you the appeal of an EV ADV bike?
To put it differently, all the advantages of an EV off-road bike like no clutch and gearbox, rhrb, adjustable power etc. aren't so important on the ADV bike.
Also, big ADV bikes seem so well developed that it's hard see how an EV can match them.

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Also, big ADV bikes seem so well developed that it's hard see how an EV can match them.

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Not so long ago we said that of MX/Enduro bikes as well I have to admit though, that I do agree with you in that regard. Just like with my ICE car I'd want the flexibility and range out of an ADV bike that EV cannot give me yet. On a recent trip to Croatia with friends I loved the EXs versatility, comfort and power as long as it lasted - nevertheless my days were always cut short when I enjoyed it the most with about 80-90km of range. It was still a great trip, but with an ADV bike that would be no option.

Michael

For one there is the noise. In Western Europe noise is a big issue on the TET and routes like that. This allows for way more hooliganism or more stealthy single track sneak routes.
Also communicating gets a lott easier.

I also ride the Adv bikes like big dirtbikes, doing some enduro rock crawling, obstacles etc. For that an E just rules, especially compared to the big bikes that refuse to go slow without very precise clutching.

Then there is the matter of charging/fueling. Often you need to get of the TET to find a fuel station, while most of the towns you cross have charge stations. So your "fuelstop" can actually be at the supermarket, near that restaurant or that tourist trap that you want to visit.

For "Offroad" ADV riding mostly the city range can be used and when traveling around average 40 kmh on a 240km city range (normal for a +-15kWh battery) that's 6 hours of riding.
After that or in the meantime you would have found some time for charging.

It can also be a really cheap commuter. On my 990 a return trip to work is +-8,50 euro, on an E bike it's around 1,50 euro.

But really it all stands or falls with the battery capacity and chargerate.

Erwin P said:

If this has proper speed normal charging, fast DC charging and remains in the 200-220 kg category it might very wel be my next ADV bike.

14,4kW (double Stark EX) is a bit meager though. However i could maybe live with that with proper chargerates. If 20kW and said conditions i just need to find the funds...

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If/when a production version comes I doubt the solution will be a dual varg battery. Don't fixate on the kwh number and other specs of the bike in the photo.

Fair enough.
Although when I asked I was thinking in terms: ADV = 99% asphalt + 1% offroad.

As for TET, I can tell you that you'd be properly buggered if you tried to ride that Himalayan on TET that passes through my village.
Also, easier to find gas than a supermarket that will let you use their power outlet.

I'm quite sure i'd make it on that since i've done a lott of it on my 990 and most of the TET is setup for ADV bikes.

I get that in eastern Europe charging is more of an issue. But here in the west there are way more chargepoints than gas stations. At least half of the supermarket have a few charge stations on their parking lot. Although often "just" 11kW.
Most decent sized restaurants that are not in citys also have that. Campsites always have a place to slow charge and hotels would offer at least that.

I guess an overnight charge and 1 quick charge at 11kW or more should get you through TET riding in Netherlands, France an Spain.
Scandinavia might be more of an issue due to long distances and most of it being easy gravel.