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Yeah, lots of advertised great specs and that is why I ordered one on Dec. 14, but for me, inadequate trail range is the only thing that will be a deal breaker and cause me to cancel. Really, I'd still buy any given EV bike even if the weight was more, power was less, and suspension worse than...

Good info. Thanks. If the Varg even slightly exceeds your 30 - 50kph (19 - 31mph) and 80km (50 mile) trail riding range of your Alta, that would seal the deal and I'll accept my Varg order when it's ready.

You are correct that Stark claims a pro lever rider can complete a MXGP race on one charge. I believe those races are 30 minutes plus two laps so depending on the track, that 35 minute example seems about right. My take on it is the 6 hours is from a controlled treadmill run at a constant...

I thought their motor size reasoning was interesting. Based on their comments, they are suggesting, for example, that an 80hp motor operating at 50hp will be more efficient and consume less energy than a 50hp operating at 50hp. I don't know enough about electric motors to confirm or deny, but I...

The Varg lets you program the entire the entire power curve, entire engine braking curve, Virtual Flywheel Weight Acceleration, Virtual Flywheel Weight Deceleration, and Traction control. How well it's programmed I don't know, but it should be fairly straight forward. The beauty of a virtual...

If, by "through the axle", you mean a stand like the triangle stands used on motorcross bikes, I don't believe that is what Varg is optioning for at least a couple reasons. - They are charging $100 for the side stand option and a motocross triangle stand runs $15 retail so about $7 wholesale. If...

I ordered 'left hand rear brake' as that is the setup I have on my Surron X, ATV, mountain bike and eMTB. On my ICE bikes, I seem to be able to still flip into "hand clutch/foot brake" mode in my head. Will be interesting to see if that changes if my percentage of riding EV dirtbike starts to...

Sounds like Stark may not even know exactly what will and will not be included. A couple clarifications, a SIM card is only needed in their included phone/gauge if you want it to connect to cellular towers. Otherwise it's via wifi which I'm fine with. And you can have the Varg app on any phone...

At this point, if the end product is the same (features, price, etc.) and delivery date is the same, it wouldn't matter to me if Stark was bought out and the bike was produced and backed by one of the big manufacturers. Ha. Better chance of long term support.

Just had someone in another forum mention a delivery date of Feb 2023 so that's 5 months out now!

Good input. Understood that I'll risk being sitting fairly deep into the max appropriate sag or perhaps even a over max recommended sag range. I actually did that with my primary easy going trail riding dual sport and it worked quite well for the specific use case for that bike. One more...

Ha. But buying enough food to not only put on but also maintain that extra weight might cost more than respringing. At least a respring is a one and done expense. Ha.

I received the following reply: "The Stark VARG uses KYB suspension, even if the springs are for your weight you are going to be able to make it softer using the Compression and rebound clickers." Obviously one can't make spring rate "softer" using compression and rebound clickers. Those will...

I've not seen any pictures of the side stand, but I don't think they'd integrate it into the frame, meaning so integrated that they would need two frames. Not a good design for economy of scale. It's likely some type of bolt-on option that could be added later though I'm not seeing any...

No clutch on the Varg. The only offroad EV bikes I know of with a clutch are the race version of that French trials bike (Electric Motion Epure Race) which has not gears but needs it for pop and that new little 4 speed small dirtbike (Time Electric Dirtbike).

[Noting that mods pulled my post out of the main thread and started this suspension thread] Stark Varg Two price points available: $11,900 for 60hp option; $12,900 for 80hp option. The only other option that has a cost associated with it is the $100 sidestand. The free options are: colors: red...

Two price points available: $11,900 for 60hp option; $12,900 for 80hp option. The only other option that has a cost associated with it is the $100 sidestand. The free options are: colors: red, gray or white. Rear wheel: 18" enduro or 19" motocross. Rear Brake lever: choose left handlebar or...

I looked up this bill. -------------- 43018.11. (a) (1) By July 1, 2022, the state board shall, consistent with federal law, adopt cost-effective and technologically feasible regulations to prohibit engine exhaust and evaporative emissions from new small off-road engines, as defined by the...

Mods, Please close out the thread if OP isn't responding.

Ha. I was going to reply with: "No. GTE" but wasn't sure how many would remember those commercials.