NEW! STARK VARG EX is here!


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UKLee said:
Can only assume stark have fixed up this David Herbreteau with a bigger battery or better cells in his battery because
Backed up by what we are seeing with our stark. Would not be the first time a manufacturer had created a works or factory bike better that the production bike would it?

Don't they refuel /battery swap in gncc any way? must do to get 2.5 hours, more than once I would think.

I notice in that video above Bassella Extreme Race a 300 2 stroke sherco I think it is is getting away on the strights, must have the power quite low to have enough power to finish.
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It seems you have not been paying attention to competition. That is the real test bed.

Indeed first pro Elite 30 min race on a Varg but riders have been racing +20 min races over Europe (France, Spain, Italy, Austria...) and Australia for a year. Hence people saying it's fine for 99% of riders. But as demonstrated by this race, it's now there or thereabouts for national level elite riders as well. Granted it would likely not make it through 30 min pro sand race but saying they're looking for an excuse not to compete at the top level is rubbish.

Likewise riders have been racing over 2h GNCC on a single charge since last year (plus racing enduro in Austria, Australia, NZ...). Pinney is thinking about swapping batteries, he also did some other enduro races with charging stops last year, I would guess he did it on a single charge but we'll know for sure in a few days. It will be interesting to see how comfortable and how much extra range he gets once his EX is delivered.
 
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Theo said:
Wass mentioned that in a certain enduro championship, probably this one, they are forced to keep the power set to 48 HP and the weight increased from a standard Varg because of the rules for electric bikes. At the beginning of the video you can see the settings: 48 HP.
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You must be thinking about when Wass was referring to FIM Superenduro where electrics are restricted in power and weight (unlike the ICE bikes they compete with), this is not it here.

Bassella Saturday race is 15 min, it's already a carnage when you see speed differential between top riders and the rest (top10 gets 5 laps, almost half the field gets lapped twice, see "traffic jam"). Eddie had 60% battery left at the end, if a Stark rider had a factory bike and possibly modified battery this weekend that would have been him. To get a smaller, lighter one (something they've been doing in AX UK).

Again if one wants to remove the "factory factor" from the equation, one only has to look at amateurs racing all over Europe (and a bit in the US as well), evidence is out there.
 
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It seems you have not been paying attention to competition. That is the real test bed.

Indeed first pro Elite 30 min race on a Varg but riders have been racing +20 min races over Europe (France, Spain, Italy, Austria...) and Australia for a year. Hence people saying it's fine for 99% of riders. But as demonstrated by this race, it's now there or thereabouts for national level elite riders as well. Granted it would likely not make it through 30 min pro sand race but saying they're looking for an excuse not to compete at the top level is rubbish.

Likewise riders have been racing over 2h GNCC on a single charge since last year (plus racing enduro in Austria, Australia, NZ...). Pinney is thinking about swapping batteries, he also did some other enduro races with charging stops last year, I would guess he did it on a single charge but we'll know for sure in a few days. It will be interesting to see how comfortable and how much extra range he gets once his EX is delivered.
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"It seems you have not been paying attention to competition. That is the real test bed."
Not much point What they have range wise is off the scale compared to what tha paying customer gets, yes they will deny it all part of the marketing.
 
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Kind of sad, UK. You can't stop for a single second, to listen and recognize what a group of enthusiastic, logical, proactive and intelligent folks are trying to help you understand. This, is a movement. But even more specific than that, this is a recognized and accepted effort to deliver a true performance product that helps to minimize detriment upon this earth. And MANY of us on this forum share the passion of it's creators! It's obvious (beyond obvious actually), that all you care about is that you get MORE for LESS. And that everything you print (or misprint) is to get attention. I'm compelled to feel sorry for you... a little... maybe 😥

Although, you do also make me laugh. It would appear that even ignorance can be entertaining at times. OOPS, the alarm just went off - I gotta go! It's time to go polish my purse decorations! 🤣
 
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FYR said:
Kind of sad, UK. You can't stop for a single second, to listen and recognize what a group of enthusiastic, logical, proactive and intelligent folks are trying to help you understand. This, is a movement. But even more specific than that, this is a recognized and accepted effort to deliver a true performance product that helps to minimize detriment upon this earth. And MANY of us on this forum share the passion of it's creators! It's obvious (beyond obvious actually), that all you care about is that you get MORE for LESS. And that everything you print (or misprint) is to get attention. I'm compelled to feel sorry for you... a little... maybe 😥

Although, you do also make me laugh. It would appear that even ignorance can be entertaining at times. OOPS, the alarm just went off - I gotta go! It's time to go polish my purse decorations! 🤣
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Oh Dear desperation in there if you have to have a dig at misprints....Whatever:rolleyes:
Far from it I do listern to what people write on here but most of it is not logic, clearly been brainwashed by what anton wass tells them. Must admit I bought a stark because of what was claimed because in my opinion you do not have a valid opinion unless you try it for yourself. Bought one tried it lacking in a big way compared to what was claimed only any use or practical as a back garden toy when it actully works, been out of use for another 3 weeks, or a showpiece to show off if that is your thing, not mine thats for sure.

Don't feel sorry for me I am fine feel sorry for this modern world we live in and the way it has gone/going. If you do not understand what I mean by that then you clearly have got it bad.
 
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Intriguing vid, amateur rider from the Netherlands with a somehow confidential YT channel got invited to ride the "new" Stark Varg MX, or something that looks like an hybrid between the current MX and the incoming EX.


No plate holder, no lights, but EX map switch for turning lights, Arkenstone phone...

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Note the cool trail map with map#, speed, battery... and 2 numbers at the bottom left that could be new kind of settings (power curve?).
 
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