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Last 3 of my VIN are 220. Took delivery on the 12th in the Pittsburgh area.
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My number is 270. Bought and picked up from KTM World in Georgia on May 16th.
From the beginning of 2025, Varg MX VIN did not increase much, from 10000 to 10500, all with 2024 production date.
On the other hand they've obviously launched the EX, latest US VIN I've seen is 3307, all with 2025 production date, pretty solid for maybe 5 months production.
This suggests Stark has enough MX inventory and focused much of its production to the EX model. Supermoto is likely to be the next released model but they probably don't want to do it too close from EX release. Then at some point there will be MX 2.0.
BTW Stark official riders race MX with EX phone and left "power/maps switch" though I'd guess they don't use the EX chassis, probably taking advantage of latest software, customized maps and 7.2 kWh battery.
On the other hand they've obviously launched the EX, latest US VIN I've seen is 3307, all with 2025 production date, pretty solid for maybe 5 months production.
This suggests Stark has enough MX inventory and focused much of its production to the EX model. Supermoto is likely to be the next released model but they probably don't want to do it too close from EX release. Then at some point there will be MX 2.0.
BTW Stark official riders race MX with EX phone and left "power/maps switch" though I'd guess they don't use the EX chassis, probably taking advantage of latest software, customized maps and 7.2 kWh battery.
US VIN update for EX: 4560.
At this rate they could end up quite close to 8-10 k for the year, that's some serious stuff.
For MX, I have yet to see any 2025 VIN (with S for 10th digit) nor any VIN higher than 10600.
Wondering if it's just a US thing (having imported enough inventory and relying on bikes made in 2024) or if it's more global?
At this rate they could end up quite close to 8-10 k for the year, that's some serious stuff.
For MX, I have yet to see any 2025 VIN (with S for 10th digit) nor any VIN higher than 10600.
Wondering if it's just a US thing (having imported enough inventory and relying on bikes made in 2024) or if it's more global?
Check. This. Out.
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"Whilst in the meeting room having a quick debrief, we were shown a map with hundreds, maybe thousands, of blue dots. Amongst those dots were a sprinkling of 124 green ones. The blue dots represent every Stark Future motorcycle in the world, the green ones were currently in use."
www.motorcycle.com
Zoom in.
"Whilst in the meeting room having a quick debrief, we were shown a map with hundreds, maybe thousands, of blue dots. Amongst those dots were a sprinkling of 124 green ones. The blue dots represent every Stark Future motorcycle in the world, the green ones were currently in use."
A Peek Behind the Golden Ring: Visiting Stark Future Headquarters
Who is Stark Future? What's a Varg? We visit Stark Future HQ in Barcelona to answer these questions and more.
www.motorcycle.com
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I'm sceptical about any data laid over a map of the entire planet.
More density in Switzerland and Slovakia than in Spain in Italy? Doubt it.
What is interesting is that they track "currently in use". That's the NSA type of game.
More density in Switzerland and Slovakia than in Spain in Italy? Doubt it.
What is interesting is that they track "currently in use". That's the NSA type of game.
Well, now that MX 1.2 is out it kinda makes sense.
No 2025 MX VIN (in the US) could have be Stark stuffing its MX inventory in the end of 2024, switching massively its production towards then-incoming EX (700-1000 EX produced per month with some MX along the way to use most of their 6.5 kWh battery pack and Stark phone inventory).
And now that the EX preorders' peak has passed and they likely have some inventory, they can allow more production slots for MX 1.2. Bonus points: it gets easier on logistics since EX and MX 1.2 share the same phone, phone mount, battery pack and so on.
On swapmotolive podcast, Anton Wass said MX 1.2 production started "a month ago" so that would have been late June/early July.
Next up should be Varg SM (now they know how to get road homologation in dozens of countries thanks to the EX) then full-on street bikes (onboard charger) and maybe 85/Sur Ron equivalent if they can price it right.
No 2025 MX VIN (in the US) could have be Stark stuffing its MX inventory in the end of 2024, switching massively its production towards then-incoming EX (700-1000 EX produced per month with some MX along the way to use most of their 6.5 kWh battery pack and Stark phone inventory).
And now that the EX preorders' peak has passed and they likely have some inventory, they can allow more production slots for MX 1.2. Bonus points: it gets easier on logistics since EX and MX 1.2 share the same phone, phone mount, battery pack and so on.
On swapmotolive podcast, Anton Wass said MX 1.2 production started "a month ago" so that would have been late June/early July.
Next up should be Varg SM (now they know how to get road homologation in dozens of countries thanks to the EX) then full-on street bikes (onboard charger) and maybe 85/Sur Ron equivalent if they can price it right.
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i would consider to buy a miniVarg surron style if the price is around 5.000€, that can be a very fun bike... with 30hp, 60/80kg max and 2 hour battery charge it could be a dream bike for many
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From the interviews, it sounds like a mini bike is in the works, and you can always use bigger wheels. Anton said - I'm not saying we are working on it, but if we did it would be the best on the market...
they could do it with no problem, they have everything they need... lets wait and see.
On the other hand im not interested on a road bike but i will love to see what Stark can do and i hope they suceed on it. Road bikes should have on board charger for sure, if not i think MUCH less people will buy it
Take care all
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What’s the lowest EX vin we’ve seen in the US? I’ve got 220 and can’t remember seeing one lower.
EX 6241 spotted.
It took Stark about 12 months from first deliveries to Varg MX 6000.
For the EX it took about 5 months.
Obviously from first preorder to first delivery they've improved quite a bit as well, for sure it's easier to launch a new model when the factory is already up and running
The production rate seems very decent and appropriate for the range of motorcycles they currently have, currently it's about 4 weeks to get your bike made to order (in Europe).
The reccuring issues with batteries and powertrains, and software bugs/glitches are the worrying part for me. As always, it's impossible to tell the amount of part failures they have but this should be a main focus for Stark because I feel that's where "legacy OEMs" could really get them when they'll join the game. I doubt Honda could come up with a much lighter bike nor much bigger battery or whatever but if it comes with similar specs and Honda built quality, that could make a huge difference.
It took Stark about 12 months from first deliveries to Varg MX 6000.
For the EX it took about 5 months.
Obviously from first preorder to first delivery they've improved quite a bit as well, for sure it's easier to launch a new model when the factory is already up and running
The production rate seems very decent and appropriate for the range of motorcycles they currently have, currently it's about 4 weeks to get your bike made to order (in Europe).
The reccuring issues with batteries and powertrains, and software bugs/glitches are the worrying part for me. As always, it's impossible to tell the amount of part failures they have but this should be a main focus for Stark because I feel that's where "legacy OEMs" could really get them when they'll join the game. I doubt Honda could come up with a much lighter bike nor much bigger battery or whatever but if it comes with similar specs and Honda built quality, that could make a huge difference.
