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    Honda WN7 (Wind Naked, Fun)

    217kg is a lot S2 livewire weight 194-198kg and they have similar/slitghtly larger battery and 5kW onboard charger new stark charger weight about 2kg for 3kW so there shoulnd be a difference there CCS is only socket (addidional controller with contactors and hv wires adding maybe 1,5kg to total...
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    Honda WN7 (Wind Naked, Fun)

    20-80% time is a joke, old livewire from 2019-2020 0-80% is 40min, energica 35min
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    what was voltage with this 15,6A? I am wondering if you get for example 210-215V and 240-245V this will be the same number
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    red is probably 32A 3 phase (22kW max) so 3 chargers connected to one connector
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    one more pic shucko is up to 16A but usually safe longer operation is 13-14A for longer period of time in EU we have BLUE (1phase) or RED (3phase) sockets - and there are two of each (small 16A) or little larger 32A
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    from some facebook group(not official) 6,6kW external chargers for track fast charging
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    also stark numbers doesnt add up they claim 82min 0-80% 3,3kW with 82min = 4,51kWh 4,51kwh = 80% ---> 5,64kWh = 100% :O
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    I think it can be depend of AC gird voltage if you have for example 240V on AC then with 16A limit on AC side will give you 3,8kW from wall battery voltage at 60% should be about 380V so with 10A dc current on charger - in theory you can charge a little faster for example same with tesla3/y -...
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    before charger - best just power meter (plug and play) after charger - DC clamp meter (cheapest good) will cost about 40-50euro but it is game changer - then if you know battery voltage you can exactly know what W you are actually charging and calculate loses on charger
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    its software bug, It is not possisble with single socket/single charger 3,3kW on 230V - real current 14,3A from socket - I put once 20A on shucko for experiments - I use high quality audio plug and 4mm wires - it works but socket and terminals was VERY VERY HOT I cant imagine to put 25-28A on...
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    6,6kW is ok for battery but not for wiring/charging socket/fuses in inverter (in theory inverter isnt needed for charging but in stark charging wiring is connected throught inverter i dont know, youtube video is posted 1year ago WITH 0 modifications - i think 5kW is max if you can bypass...
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    I said it before but again, I saw video from inverter/controller tear down - from charging port line there are 20A fuses battery is 100S so at 0% SoC it have about 320-330V - with 6,6kW even with 330V voltage you will need 20A - I am in 99% sure safe current for actual hardware will be about...
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    I think CCS will be possible as an adapter from stark charging port to ccs socket, unfortunanetly you will not get higher charging speeds (as I said before - due to wiring and fuses/ limitations) also that kind of adapter will be BULKY so even it can be even bigger than this external charger
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    unlikely - wires from charge port are 2,5mm^2 - also fuses in inverter are 20A, so even with two chargers you will be at 100% of capability of these, so maybe 16-18A with updated firmware also lets assume hardware/wiring is capable of more - then probably cells will be not, so 2C maybe will be...
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    Stark mobile charger is out !

    type2 adapter to schuko isnt something new - you can buy one on aliexpress for about 15-20$ inside you have diode + 2-3 resistors and thats it, if you ride with friends you can always build custom adapter like TYPE2 to 3x or 6x schuko - with 22kW charging point you can charge 6 bikes...
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    Has anyone looked into aftermarket chargers?

    yes, thats also the way, but then you bypassing safety features on inverter/controller, definanetly it is something for ppl who knows how they are doing
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    Honda WN7 (Wind Naked, Fun)

    7kWh will be disaster - my guess is for 10-11kWh about weight harley livewire has 15kwh with 245kg and eenrgica 18-19kWh with 260kg but these has OLD tech (2019) cells, new have 20-30% more capacity (maybe even 40%) zero is lighter on spec sheet,, but I think they dont include additional...
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    Interest poll: What kind of charger would get your money on the table?

    HARDWARE: Fuses for charging in inverter are 20A, wires probabaly 2,5mm so 20A max charging in theory, in real world should be able to hold 16A, maybe 17-18A As battery has only ONE DC connector (for charging and discharging) for faster charing you will need to use that port - this means to...
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    Has anyone looked into aftermarket chargers?

    yes, but even if you figure out software part then you have to look/check HARDWARE like charging port/socket + wire gauge + wiring inside battery to BMS, and maybe even BMS itself if it can handle more current
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