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OneLapper

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I've done one JDay event in full 24hr Challenge gear. The next event is this Sunday in Plainfield CT.

In full gear, with the Task Racing light bar and battery, I think the bike's forks are just a bit on the soft side. N2Dirt installed .46 springs, I think I need to increase it just a hair. Duncan suggested a while ago to install one .49 spring (OEM) to split the difference in increasing the spring rate. What's the opinion on needing to revalve the forks if I bump up the spring rate a tad?
 

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In full gear, with the Task Racing light bar and battery, I think the bike's forks are just a bit on the soft side. N2Dirt installed .46 springs, I think I need to increase it just a hair. Duncan suggested a while ago to install one .49 spring (OEM) to split the difference in increasing the spring rate. What's the opinion on needing to revalve the forks if I bump up the spring rate a tad?
In my experience, if the damping is good now, then you can change the spring rate by at least 4-5% and still be okay, and not even have to adjust the clickers much.
 

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I've done one JDay event in full 24hr Challenge gear. The next event is this Sunday in Plainfield CT.

In full gear, with the Task Racing light bar and battery, I think the bike's forks are just a bit on the soft side. N2Dirt installed .46 springs, I think I need to increase it just a hair. Duncan suggested a while ago to install one .49 spring (OEM) to split the difference in increasing the spring rate. What's the opinion on needing to revalve the forks if I bump up the spring rate a tad?

Stiffer spring rate with untouched valving will require a few clicks out on compression and a few clicks in on rebound to get the same feel (so long as you have clicks left in your adjusters).
 

OneLapper

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I'm 7 clicks out from full stiff. I haven't tried it full stiff yet. I'd hate be at the end of my adjustments and have it be where I feel it should be normally. I'd like to be able to go softer and stiffer as needed.
 

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By the end of the moto I was beat. The bike had to have gained 30 pounds, I had a hard time getting my feet back on the pegs they weighed so much! The first lap of the second moto I got my foot peg stuck UNDER a root (the rut was at least 14" deep). I had to go get a helper to help me get unstuck! The last lap I tipped over three times. I needed a hand lifting the bike up again!

The big issue is the amount of mud that gets packed into the sprocket. The chain was popping and crunching something awful! I thought I was going to break something. We need @TCMB371 's updated chain guard that deflects dirt and mud!
 

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Does the mud pile up on top of the front sprocket from the front wheel or from the rear wheel?

If the rear, then a completely different guard is needed. Something that would scrape it off the chain.

But, judging by the right side, it looks like the front wheel contributes a lot too.
 

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Wow @OneLapper , thats a ton of mud! That's proof enough that the skid plate doesn't help prevent mud packing up in the front sprocket area.

I'm currently doing maintenance on my printer so its not functional at the moment. Hope to have it back up this weekend. Perhaps i'll print you a rough TCMB sprocket cover to put to the test and maybe i'll offer it for cheap to everyone riding in this event.

Does the mud pile up on top of the front sprocket from the front wheel or from the rear wheel? If the rear, then a completely different guard is needed. Something that would scrape it off the chain.

It packs up from the front in my experience.
 

OneLapper

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The chain will certainly fling mud forward to the drive sprocket, but leaning left while in a deep rut would shovel dirt in front of the drive sprocket. I removed rocks and roots that the chain could not have flung there. I nearly ruined brand new sprockets and chain.
 

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That jersey looks boss though! That gap between the skid plate and the bottom of the fender looks like it was gathering a ton of mud too. A little piece of something to keep the mud from getting packed in between the battery and the skid plate might help.
 

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That jersey looks boss though! That gap between the skid plate and the bottom of the fender looks like it was gathering a ton of mud too. A little piece of something to keep the mud from getting packed in between the battery and the skid plate might help.

I jam a piece of foam in there to cut down on the mud accumulation. It’s definitely a debris catcher.
 

OneLapper

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That jersey looks boss though! That gap between the skid plate and the bottom of the fender looks like it was gathering a ton of mud too. A little piece of something to keep the mud from getting packed in between the battery and the skid plate might help.

I have a piece of foam I usually stuff in there. It completely slipped my mind to reinstall it for this race.
 

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One thing we need to plan for is bringing enough fuel to run generators for 24 hours!
So you're saying we need more than one charge each to complete the race? Hmm. How long is the 24hr anyway?! :D I always keep extra non-ethanol on my trailer and in my tool kit. But this is clearly an important detail to not overlook. I'm guessing they have bagged ice (if needed) and food vendors on-site for those that want it...but someone that knows specifically, please advise.
 

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My half assed estimate is 15 gallons would keep a generator going 24 hours. Not sure how many generators we need to keep bikes charged though. We should have one designated generator and one backup bare minimum. I will offer my generator as the primary unless someone has a better unit they want to offer. Mine will handle two bikes at a time. It is loud though. I am planning on building a noise reducing semi-enclosure, not sure I will have it in time however.
 

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I have another loud generator that can theoretically charge 2 bikes at a time though I have not tried doing that yet. Also, I don't recall any food vendors or ice available but there was a parts vendor that had tires and various parts as well as riding gear. There is ice, food, and gas in the neighboring town of Alfred though.
 

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