Both Tubes Patched On A New EX

[Erwin P]

First time i hear of tireballs. However they do seem to have the same downside as mousse. No airing up/down and overheating in our Enduro riding that incluides fast asphalt sections.

 

[AbnormalWrench]

I'll stick with tire balls. Nothing worse than a leaking bladder on a ride. The fact that they do fail, require checking bladder pressure before almost every ride, bladder can fail, any tire puncture requires a plug, all add up to a lot of things that can go wrong. Balls over bladder every time

Not trying to argue, but I've put probably 30K miles on Tu-Bliss setups. Yes, I've had some failures, but they were all my fault. The bladders very rarely need inflating, btw. As long as they are over 70PSI they are fine. The tire needs inflating a lot, depending on model of tire - some leak more than others.

The difficulty is if you're paying someone to do your tires when you have a Tu-Bliss setup, because they are difficult to work with, and I would not be surprised at all if the 17 y/o kid doing your tires messed them up.

 

[Chadman]

Not trying to argue, but I've put probably 30K miles on Tu-Bliss setups. Yes, I've had some failures, but they were all my fault. The bladders very rarely need inflating, btw. As long as they are over 70PSI they are fine. The tire needs inflating a lot, depending on model of tire - some leak more than others.

The difficulty is if you're paying someone to do your tires when you have a Tu-Bliss setup, because they are difficult to work with, and I would not be surprised at all if the 17 y/o kid doing your tires messed them up.

I never said I have a shop install my tires. I install them all myself and have done so for a very long time. Keep using your Tubliss. I think it's a great setup. Like I mentioned, I used Tubliss for over 10 years and had good luck with them, but still had failures. I'm not trying to convince anyone here to convert My point is that they can and do fail. You even mention you have had a couple of failures yourself. I use inserts because they don't fail and work perfectly for what I ride. I prefer to ride over maintenance. Having a system that will not go flat, does not have any type of tube, does not require me to check air pressure for both high and low pressure systems in tubliss before rides, and not have to worry about a ruined ride because of a failure, makes this a no-brainer for me.