Button Unit get Stuck with dirt, Varg EX and MX

Chaconne said:
Yes. Or the ones you got are available from Walmart online as well.
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Well, I can't recommend the Zentoes, at least not the size I tried.
I barely rode the bike around my property, pushed the buttons very few times, and it's already got couple holes in it where it was evidently stretched too much.:(
So maybe the large ones will work better, as they won't be stretched as much.
 
AL_V said:
Well, I can't recommend the Zentoes, at least not the size I tried.
I barely rode the bike around my property, pushed the buttons very few times, and it's already got couple holes in it where it was evidently stretched too much.:(
So maybe the large ones will work better, as they won't be stretched as much.
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The Stark guys need to break out the 3D printer and use the dimensions to make a properly formed rubber boot with fasteners on the bottom with fasteners like the rubberized cable ties they have. Probably could charge 50.00 USD at Slavens for it.

BTW I bought my new AXP skid plate (the first one went along with my stolen bike) from Slavens they had a competitive price and it didn't have to be shipped from Europe.
 
DaveAusNor said:
I'm quite please with the one that comes stock. If stark trust it to protect the battery then I do too.
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I like the stock skid plate. But the AXP has some extra good protections. I switched to it after I broke some cooling fins off the battery on right side in a rock garden crash with the stock version.

The AXP plate allows for more air flow/venting to the battery, shielding higher up the battery for rock protection especially for tip overs, and an extension for the linkage/suspension that is really good for hard enduro stuff I do.
 
I received my EX a week ago, but the buttons were sticking right from the factory. After I got replacement buttons, I decided to take the original unit apart. I used a deburring tool to go around the edges of the frame and shaved off a fraction of a millimeter, which fixed the problem. I think there is an issue with CNC milling tolerances; some buttons likely don't work properly because the holes are just a hair too small.
 
worekarolis said:
I received my EX a week ago, but the buttons were sticking right from the factory. After I got replacement buttons, I decided to take the original unit apart. I used a deburring tool to go around the edges of the frame and shaved off a fraction of a millimeter, which fixed the problem. I think there is an issue with CNC milling tolerances; some buttons likely don't work properly because the holes are just a hair too small.
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Even with proper tolerances the buttons are very susceptible to dirt intrusion and sticking. They should come with a proper fitting rubber boot (as noted above). Drop your Varg in mud and sink the buttons and there is a good chance the buttons will stick. This can render things inoperable too.

If you are out in the wild it is a good idea to have a small chain breaker since typically there is a continuous chain or alternatively adding a master link in case bad things happen.
 
Chaconne said:
I like the stock skid plate. But the AXP has some extra good protections. I switched to it after I broke some cooling fins off the battery on right side in a rock garden crash with the stock version.

The AXP plate allows for more air flow/venting to the battery, shielding higher up the battery for rock protection especially for tip overs, and an extension for the linkage/suspension that is really good for hard enduro stuff I do.
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Just a follow up here. Following the warranty concerns, Slavens sent out a notice and asked me to return the plate for a full refund which I did.

I used the AXP successfully on both my Vargs but I was unwilling to take a chance with the warranty.
 
Chaconne said:
Even with proper tolerances the buttons are very susceptible to dirt intrusion and sticking. They should come with a proper fitting rubber boot (as noted above). Drop your Varg in mud and sink the buttons and there is a good chance the buttons will stick. This can render things inoperable too.

If you are out in the wild it is a good idea to have a small chain breaker since typically there is a continuous chain or alternatively adding a master link in case bad things happen.
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Also carry T5 T20 and T3 T10 in case you need to clean the buttons. It takes less than a minute to take it apart.
 
worekarolis said:
Also carry T5 and T3 in case you need to clean the buttons. It takes less than a minute to take it apart.
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Some users have suggested that, if you have the 10 mm allen key to remove the rear wheel, you won't need any tool to open the chain since you can just slide it off the wheel.

Chaconne said:
Just a follow up here. Following the warranty concerns, Slavens sent out a notice and asked me to return the plate for a full refund which I did.

I used the AXP successfully on both my Vargs but I was unwilling to take a chance with the warranty.
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Wise decision.
 
Aye, it's possible to take measurements, design and model a knob with one revolve and and one extrusion cut. Let's include one improvement loop on the printer to optimise form/fit/function. When you want to sell it, you'd probably fine tune the design, make sure it's 100% reliable and easily produced repeatedly on your equipment.

That said, I like how many custom parts are created around the Varg and how they pop up everywhere on the internet. Some are simple and useful, others are complicated but useless. Sadly, the logistics behind distributing them makes it awkward to monetise that work and innovation.

I've asked the local LLM about the effort to send 12 grams of parts from the EU to the EU:
1. Shipping: DHL Warenpost International
  • Contract: Requires a business account via the DHL Business Customer Portal (usually a minimum of 200 shipments/year).
  • Cost: Significantly cheaper than standard parcels (approx. €3.30 – €4.50 for 12g).
  • Dimensions: Max. 35.3 x 25 x 10 cm (perfect for envelopes).
  • Digital Only: Labels must be generated online; traditional stamps are not allowed for goods.
2. Compliance: Product Safety (GPSR 2025)
The General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR) applies to almost all consumer products in the EU:
  • Manufacturer Info: You must include your name, registered trade name, postal address, and email on the product or the packaging.
  • Identification: The part must have a type, batch, or serial number (e.g., a simple SKU).
  • Online Listing: Your website/shop must display the manufacturer info and any safety warnings (e.g., "Not a toy") before the customer buys.
3. Taxes & Packaging (EPR)
  • VAT (OSS): If your total EU-wide cross-border sales exceed €10,000, you must charge the VAT rate of the destination country and file it via the One-Stop-Shop (OSS).
  • Packaging Laws: You must register your shipping envelopes in the German LUCID database and pay recycling fees.
  • EU Recycling: Be aware that some EU countries (like France or Spain) require separate registrations for packaging disposal.
4. Logistics & Customs
  • Intra-EU Trade: Since you are shipping within the EU Single Market, there are no customs duties and no customs declarations (CN22/23) required for standard member states.
  • HS-Code: For 3D-printed plastic parts, the customs code is usually 3926 90 97 (useful for statistics or special territories).
Quick Recommendation: For a 12g part, use Warenpost International Tracked (cost is approx. €5.49 (net, plus VAT if applicable)) to ensure you have proof of delivery while keeping costs low.
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If you send these privately (ie. less than 200 shipments/year) shipping costs ~7 €, but that includes VAT.
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I can see how the cost for a distributed 3d-printed part quickly adds up beyond the 20-40€/kg material cost, and how they are not selling overseas to avoid diving into additional territories' regulations for just a dozen more parts sold.
 
Bodo said:
That said, I like how many custom parts are created around the Varg and how they pop up everywhere on the internet. Some are simple and useful, others are complicated but useless. Sadly, the logistics behind distributing them makes it awkward to monetise that work and innovation.
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It would be nice if there were a way to break this kind of bureaucratic stranglehold --kind of like how free software loosened things in computing. Many of the burdens of the logistics seems like unnecessary protectionism. Opportunities like the Varg where there are lots of ways to for local innovators to bring their ideas to market should be encouraged not squelched by red tape IMHO.
 
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