DC Chademo fast charger kit for alta and other emoto

[v-proto]

Who want to buy DC Chademo fast charge kit for alta and other emoto?
To use emoto in town and charge from chademo charge station.

 

[Judaslefourbe]

Prove that it works and then we can discuss, although CHAdeMO is a terrible setup in my opinion.

 

[v-proto]

You don't know chademo standard?
If you think chademo charge is bad for you, what you want to discuss?

 

[Philip]

I am sure now others have the same question as Judaslefourbe asked.

 

[Judaslefourbe]

I do know that standard quite well for having worked on it in a previous life.
And while I am not interested personally, I can't speak for other members.

 

[v-proto]

What you make in previous life ? you can answer me this via pm.

 

[Judaslefourbe]

No secret here: I worked at Tesla where I was in charge of the charging systems, including integrating the CHAdeMO into the Model S.

 

[v-proto]

You think for ebike in town chademo charge is bad ?

 

[Rashid510]

You think for ebike in town chademo charge is bad ?

Your showing a Chademo connector (receptacle side) on a early 2013ish Zero. Its meant for a high rate of charging which CCS and DCFC has taken over (The Chademo setup were removed from Zero's product line due to the kit that made it up being discontinued (lack of sales)). DCFC is also in Europe and in the US has been taking off.

Also the Chademo gun (this is off of Alibaba) is quite bulky.Not very fun on a motorcycle. On a Tesla it was even bulkier.

 

[Judaslefourbe]

Indeed.
Low adoption rate, bad standards (too open to interpretation) that led to the handshake not happening in many cases.

So in short, it's a bad standard.

 

[v-proto]

If standart is too open to interpretation this bad?
This is very strange and i dont see any problem then charging via chademo.

 

[v-proto]

Your showing a Chademo connector (receptacle side) on a early 2013ish Zero. Its meant for a high rate of charging which CCS and DCFC has taken over (The Chademo setup were removed from Zero's product line due to the kit that made it up being discontinued (lack of sales)). DCFC is also in Europe and in the US has been taking off.

Also the Chademo gun (this is off of Alibaba) is quite bulky.Not very fun on a motorcycle. On a Tesla it was even bulkier.

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To charge no need to have your station in home.
Many fast charge station have chademo and ccs connector to charge.

 

[bluefxstc]

The issue I see with Chademo in the US, is there are not a lot of charge stations available, and almost none of them are where I want to ride my EX. Looking at a Plug Share charging station map, there is one Chademo station in Boise and the next closest station is about 45 freeway miles away. That is way to far to go on my EX, so really of no use. They don't have Chademo stations at MX tracks or in the woods were I ride, so not sure I see the value. No real gain with Chademo capability for my style of riding.

On a technical side, what are you going to do with the heat? There are riders on this forum, I am not one of them, that ride hard enough to have the battery pack go into thermal limiting when they are riding hard. Seems to me you will have the same issue with fast charging so how do you plan on managing the heat generated by fast charging?

Now if you have a reasonably priced, portable, fast charging option, there would probably be numerous forum members wanting something like that. Something you could take into the woods, or at the track, and go from near empty to full in 30 minutes would be useful. You would still have the issue of heat, but being able to move a fast charging station to where we want to ride would be valuable. Probably wouldn't even need to go to Chademo, just a 6-10kw charger for the bike would be useful. That would be a 45-60 min charge from empty and you could do it from a standard 50 Amp circuit in the US.

 

[v-proto]

This is for use in the city.

For racing there is another working solution.