Regen and the front end ride and traction

[Philip]

Yesterday, I tried reducing my regen from the usual 40% down to 20% and down to 0%.

Pros:
- The front end ride quality improved a lot!
- The flow through some turns improved.

Cons:
- In many turns, the front end traction and my confidence reduced.
- I had to drag the LHRB to compensate, which was not very smooth or consistent.
- The bike started jumping more nose up.

Overall, it was a good learning experience. Less regen is definitely better in fast flowy sections. More is better in slow, technical, and point-and-shoot sections.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Yesterday, I tried reducing my regen from the usual 40% down to 20% and down to 0%.

Pros:
- The front end ride quality improved a lot!
- The flow through some turns improved.

Cons:
- In many turns, the front end traction and my confidence reduced.
- I had to drag the LHRB to compensate, which was not very smooth or consistent.
- The bike started jumping more nose up.

Overall, it was a good learning experience. Less regen is definitely better in fast flowy sections. More is better in slow, technical, and point-and-shoot sections.

Curious to know if you tracked the battery usage during this? You may want a different setup with 0 regen, you won't have as much weight transfer, so you might run the forks up a bit in the clamps. Once you get used to it you can compensate for the boner air and the LHRB becomes an even better tool. Glad to see you experimenting with it, Are you a fast guy?
That Big Bear GP has me thinking about a trip from Texas..

 

[Philip]

Curious to know if you tracked the battery usage during this? You may want a different setup with 0 regen, you won't have as much weight transfer, so you might run the forks up a bit in the clamps. Once you get used to it you can compensate for the boner air and the LHRB becomes an even better tool. Glad to see you experimenting with it, Are you a fast guy?
That Big Bear GP has me thinking about a trip from Texas..

I wasn't tracking the battery. I was switching back and forth. Honestly, I had a pretty crappy day last Thursday. I was not well-rested and had no flow. I would have to repeat this exercise again to truly understand if I could even get used to a zero regen. So far, I only understood the advantage of a lower-than-normal regen.

I am not super fast. I consider myself an intermediate rider.

 

[DaveAusNor]

I pushed regen up to 60 at the track yesterday from my usual 40/50 regen maps. Sometimes I felt it was much too high, but the positive was I felt like I was riding the brakes less into corners. Some of the faster corners I didn't even brake at all, just let the regen slow me enough until it was time to power on again. I prefer to ride with zero regen when on the road. I'll experiment with 20 and maybe even zero regen next time at the MX track.

 

[Johnny Depp]

I pushed regen up to 60 at the track yesterday from my usual 40/50 regen maps. Sometimes I felt it was much too high, but the positive was I felt like I was riding the brakes less into corners. Some of the faster corners I didn't even brake at all, just let the regen slow me enough until it was time to power on again. I prefer to ride with zero regen when on the road. I'll experiment with 20 and maybe even zero regen next time at the MX track.

In following with the easier to ride Stark trend of no shifting or clutch, heavy Regen is much like automatic braking. Most people shut off too soon, and auto brakes just makes it worse?

 

[DaveAusNor]

Yea pretty much haha. No clutch, no gears, now no brakes, just throttle control.

Someone mentioned you should have the regen at 100, because if you aren't accelerating you should be braking and vice versa.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Yea pretty much haha. No clutch, no gears, now no brakes, just throttle control.

Someone mentioned you should have the regen at 100, because if you aren't accelerating you should be braking and vice versa.

In a perfect world yeah, from full throttle to full braking, but that's not reality even for the fastest guys. The brain wants to shut off too soon, before the braking zone, and with too much Regen it's like driving with the parking brake on, not good for speed or range.