Stark rider triangle and bar position

[Magoo69]

Has anybody noticed how far forward the the bars/triple clamp are in relation to the foot pegs?

I was riding with a friend who just got a new Gas Gas 350. I noticed right away how much closer the bars are on the gas gas than on the Varg.

I also own a 300 XC so I decided to take some measurements and compare them with the Startk. I was very surprised to see that the bars are very significantly more forwards on the Stark. I included some pictures. Also keep in mind that I’m using bars with a lot of sweep on the Varg.

I‘m hoping someone will make bar mounts that are closer than stock.

 

[C5tor]

It’s like that famous Greek dirt bike rider, Pythagoras, once said:
“It ain’t the reach to the grip
that lets you rip;
It’s the use of the hypotenuse
that lets you cruise.”

Okay, I know it probably rhymed better in the original, 6th-century BC, Greek dialect. But the point is that the distance from the pegs to the bars is consistent, your body position is just in a forward but lower stance, thus a better attack position.

Now, I’m not really sure if good ‘ol Pythag was more of an MX or an enduro kinda rider, but even the ancient greeks knew a good attack position is better for faster, more consistent warfare/riding. I do have a hunch that he would have preferred electric over gas bikes, as the hot exhaust pipes would tend to set his toga on fire.

 

[Theo]

Thanks to generative AI you can also see how he looked like!!



I am a slow motocross rider, I use the standard geometry and I like it; I have only adjusted the brake levers and moved the master cylinders. I think that it's very subjective and that it depends a lot on the body of the rider: someone is taller than me, someone shorter, someone is my height but with longer legs, etc.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Has anybody noticed how far forward the the bars/triple clamp are in relation to the foot pegs?

I was riding with a friend who just got a new Gas Gas 350. I noticed right away how much closer the bars are on the gas gas than on the Varg.

I also own a 300 XC so I decided to take some measurements and compare them with the Startk. I was very surprised to see that the bars are very significantly more forwards on the Stark. I included some pictures. Also keep in mind that I’m using bars with a lot of sweep on the Varg.

I‘m hoping someone will make bar mounts that are closer than stock.

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With the body folded forward riding position being in vogue, I'd imagine it was done purposely. Most reviews have called it the best handling bike ever.