Stark Varg on-board charger

[Erwin P]

Has anyone made an onboard charger that stays on/in the bike?

Comming spring i have a trip where we will stay in places with electricity but i don't feel like hauling the charger in my Backpack.

 

[AL_V]

Has anyone made an onboard charger that stays on/in the bike?

Comming spring i have a trip where we will stay in places with electricity but i don't feel like hauling the charger in my Backpack.

Interesting idea, but where to mount it?

 

[Erwin P]

O don't know. I don't know how big the essential parts are.
The did little effort to make it compact as it wasn't nescecairy for a stand to be compact.

There is some room on top of the battery and mayby even in the subframe near the radiator.

I don't care about the weight since the bike feels so nimble and i would rather lift a few kg's more than have the effert of riding of my 300 2 stroke. My strength is way better developed than my stanima.

 

[AL_V]

O don't know. I don't know how big the essential parts are.
The did little effort to make it compact as it wasn't nescecairy for a stand to be compact.

There is some room on top of the battery and mayby even in the subframe near the radiator.

Sorry, not gonna fit...
L to R in this photo is about 9.5"
Height is about 5"
Front to back is about 5.5" 6.75" not including the cable connectors.
Front to back is about 8" including the cable connectors.
The charger will fit in a Harbor Freight 2800 box, but I went with a 3800 to have room for the cables.

 

[Erwin P]

Just to be sure, are you talking sizes about the box or the charger?

 

[AL_V]

Just to be sure, are you talking sizes about the box or the charger?

The dimensions I wrote are for the charger itself.
The boxes are:
2800 11.4 x 13.5 x 6
3800 13 x 16.5 x 6.75
inches

 

[Erwin P]

On a streetsetup i would make a top case out of it, but that wouldn't work for enduro would it.
Only if you ride around and have some ''send-it'' uphills like i did in the Balkan and take it off before you send it. In between would be ''soft'' or easy enduro trail riding.

If it isn't too obstructive you could replace the front number plate. Sure it would add some weight to a place where i wouldn't want it, but well it beats walking after day one.

 

[Beagle]

Definitely something they must be working on for the 2025 street models

 

[AL_V]

On a streetsetup i would make a top case out of it, but that wouldn't work for enduro would it.
Only if you ride around and have some ''send-it'' uphills like i did in the Balkan and take it off before you send it. In between would be ''soft'' or easy enduro trail riding.

If it isn't too obstructive you could replace the front number plate. Sure it would add some weight to a place where i wouldn't want it, but well it beats walking after day one.

It surely could be done, similar, even better than carrying a chainsaw up front.

 

[Erwin P]

Definitely something they must be working on for the 2025 street models

Even better still would be one that could be easely removed. Lets say they widend up he bodywork just a little bit so it would be as wide as most ICE enduro bikes and place the module under there.
For competition you could always take it out. Remove the platework just like now and unscrew it.
Keeping the currenct charging port (or make it possible to add it) would even allow for a ''fast charging'' system like Zero uses. They have an onboard 1.3kW charger and a plug to plug-in up to 2 ''fast chargers'' of each 1kW. In Starks case an onboard 3.3kW and an additional 3.3kW would greatly reduce charge time in between heats.

For the makeshift version i imagined something like this:

 

[Torqu3]

I've been looking a bit myself. Haven't really found a much smaller charger with the right output voltage even. I'm interested to see solutions here as well as what stark does for a street model

 

[synics]

Sorry, not gonna fit...
L to R in this photo is about 9.5"
Height is about 5"
Front to back is about 5.5" 6.75" not including the cable connectors.
Front to back is about 8" including the cable connectors.
The charger will fit in a Harbor Freight 2800 box, but I went with a 3800 to have room for the cables.

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this is fantastic man, great job.

 

[Beagle]

I still can't believe they haven't done an onboard charger for the Varg EX. Probably to save weight or limit cost but that remains a very odd choice to me.

There are gonna be a lot of riders disappointed to learn they can only charge their street-legal bike with their stand. So basically you have to make a loop from your van or from your house, no way to charge at work nor at friends, can't plug it anywhere you want because you need the frigging stand...

Varg EX, the only electric street bike you can't charge anywhere else but home ‍

 

[FYR]

"Varg EX, the only electric street bike you can't charge anywhere else but home ‍ "

Sad, but true. It kinda makes the legality of the bike a bit more of a novelty than a utility. I bought some SM wheels (not here yet) for mine [2024 Gen 2 Varg], but still wondering if I'll be able to make it home on the return leg of my work commute.

 

[Erwin P]

I think they did it to get it legal to run in Enduro events.

 

[Beagle]

I think they did it to get it legal to run in Enduro events.

Not sure what you mean, the Varg is already legal to race Enduro in various countries and at the pro level Taddy B and Eddie Karlsson are racing it around the world?

 

[Erwin P]

In a lott of places in Europe you need a licence plate for the lower level enduro events since there are road sections.

for example every enduro Event in the Netherlands needs to be done a road legal bike with a licence plate.

 

[Beagle]

In a lott of places in Europe you need a licence plate for the lower level enduro events since there are road sections.

for example every enduro Event in the Netherlands needs to be done a road legal bike with a licence plate.

Got it, thanks