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[JayC]

Old man dirtbiker here - I have a somewhat steep and really boney trail network on my property, where I ride my CRF250 and CR125. My son-in-law stopped over with his ETM RTR (3/4-size electric dirt bike) - maybe TTR125 sized. It's pretty peppy, so I got intrigued.
I started looking into the Surron-type bikes for the lack of weight, but lack of suspension and flimsy designs put me onto a real-bike path. I ended up ordering a Trailblaze Omega, in white/red with a foot brake. I have yet to see any in-depth reviews by actual dirtbikers though, so I'm taking a chance. Does anyone know about the Omega - how it might stack up against the other 'real' e-dirtbikes? Seems like a lot of bike for the money.

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[VINSANITY]

Looks like pretty good specs, 96v x 55 amp/hr is good power and range. KTM knock off design so should handle well. Be interested to see your review.

 

[Border Dave]

Looks like pretty good specs, 96v x 55 amp/hr is good power and range. KTM knock off design so should handle well. Be interested to see your review.

I would like to see this bike up against the Arctic Leopard EXE 880.

 

[Theo]

I'm taking a chance. Does anyone know about the Omega - how it might stack up against the other 'real' e-dirtbikes? Seems like a lot of bike for the money.

Well, we can state some things from what we know.

One thing that I find interesting is that, from the pictures, I think that they use a progressive spring for the rear shock instead of using linkages or more shock tilt to get the progression.
Explanation for those who need it: generally you want the rear suspension to be progressive, which means that the more it's compressed, the stiffer it will be. Usually, there are linkages that allow that to be obtained with a good degree of control on the progression at each point of the travel.
Now, take a look at pictures of dirtbikes without linkages, like KTMs with PDS or a Yamaha YZ65 and you'll see that their rear shock is more tilted compared to other bikes with linkages. The reason for which they are like that is the greater lever arm that the rear shock has when it's compressed a lot compared to when it's compressed little, that adds progression. This solution won't give the same progression control offered by linkages, though. I see that the shock of this Omega neither has linkages, nor it has much tilt, but it also seems to me that there are some coils of the spring on the swingarm end that are less spaced and therefore softer. When the spring is compressed, it will shorten first mostly there, then it will start shortening more in the rest, where the coils are more spaced and therefore stiffer. Take a look at 0.25X playback speed @1:37:

I've noticed this solution often while looking at mopeds parked in the streets.

Another thing that I've noticed is the writing "COM" on the fork axle holder: apparently, the compression is adjusted there, which means that probably the fork has an open chamber and not a closed chamber.

I don't know how much it's necessary to have braided brake lines.

The machined instead of cast triple clamps are also peculiar on a budget bike. I mean, I've just taken a look at some pictures of 2025 CRF 450s and the triple clamps look cast.

In that video they show that it has a swappable battery. 5.3 kwh is good for that weight.

I guess it's OK to have fun on trails, maybe you should keep an eye on every possible damage during the first rides to understand where some protection should be added.

I don't think that it will suck to ride this bike, maybe it could have minor problems that you can adapt to, like a power delivery you may not like.

To me the problem is that, while I'd be surprised to find out that Surron goes bankrupt, unfortunately I wouldn't be so surprised about an unknown manufacturer and at that point the buyer could end up not having support and spare parts availability anymore.

 

[Travis]

Old man dirtbiker here - I have a somewhat steep and really boney trail network on my property, where I ride my CRF250 and CR125. My son-in-law stopped over with his ETM RTR (3/4-size electric dirt bike) - maybe TTR125 sized. It's pretty peppy, so I got intrigued.
I started looking into the Surron-type bikes for the lack of weight, but lack of suspension and flimsy designs put me onto a real-bike path. I ended up ordering a Trailblaze Omega, in white/red with a foot brake. I have yet to see any in-depth reviews by actual dirtbikers though, so I'm taking a chance. Does anyone know about the Omega - how it might stack up against the other 'real' e-dirtbikes? Seems like a lot of bike for the money.

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I pre-ordered the Omega as well. How did you choose your color? When I bought mine, that wasn't an option. Another thing I want to point out, these youtube videos are all using a pre production demo bike. The actual bike will have a much better, adjustable rear shock. Living in Socal, I actually was able to meet the owners and test drive the bike. I'm 6'5 300 pounds and it moved me like nothing. This bike is big, beefy, and powerful. Can't wait till it arrives.

 

[Border Dave]

I pre-ordered the Omega as well. How did you choose your color? When I bought mine, that wasn't an option. Another thing I want to point out, these youtube videos are all using a pre production demo bike. The actual bike will have a much better, adjustable rear shock. Living in Socal, I actually was able to meet the owners and test drive the bike. I'm 6'5 300 pounds and it moved me like nothing. This bike is big, beefy, and powerful. Can't wait till it arrives.

Is it a full size bike like the Stark and Arctic Leopard or mid size like the Surron Ultra Bee?

 

[JayC]

I pre-ordered the Omega as well. How did you choose your color? When I bought mine, that wasn't an option. Another thing I want to point out, these youtube videos are all using a pre production demo bike. The actual bike will have a much better, adjustable rear shock. Living in Socal, I actually was able to meet the owners and test drive the bike. I'm 6'5 300 pounds and it moved me like nothing. This bike is big, beefy, and powerful. Can't wait till it arrives.

Well, that's exciting - thanks for chiming in! Unfortunately, the available options of different colored stickers, white plastic, rear footbrake (+$120), handlebar risers, dual-sport tires or supermoto wheels/tires (+??) aren't listed on the website - I emailed and asked about options because I wanted a foot brake. You could probably get an order modification if you want something different - the bikes aren't getting shipped out from their supplier for another 3 weeks. I'd call them.
I can't wait either - the only suck is the mid-nov. delivery date to NH is bumping up against snow season - hope I can get some decent testing in before we get buried and I have to park the bikes until Spring.

 

[JayC]

Is it a full size bike like the Stark and Arctic Leopard or mid size like the Surron Ultra Bee?

Full-sized, though slightly smaller than a Varg.

 

[JayC]

Well, we can state some things from what we know.

One thing that I find interesting is that, from the pictures, I think that they use a progressive spring for the rear shock instead of using linkages or more shock tilt to get the progression.
Explanation for those who need it: generally you want the rear suspension to be progressive, which means that the more it's compressed, the stiffer it will be. Usually, there are linkages that allow that to be obtained with a good degree of control on the progression at each point of the travel.
Now, take a look at pictures of dirtbikes without linkages, like KTMs with PDS or a Yamaha YZ65 and you'll see that their rear shock is more tilted compared to other bikes with linkages. The reason for which they are like that is the greater lever arm that the rear shock has when it's compressed a lot compared to when it's compressed little, that adds progression. This solution won't give the same progression control offered by linkages, though. I see that the shock of this Omega neither has linkages, nor it has much tilt, but it also seems to me that there are some coils of the spring on the swingarm end that are less spaced and therefore softer. When the spring is compressed, it will shorten first mostly there, then it will start shortening more in the rest, where the coils are more spaced and therefore stiffer. Take a look at 0.25X playback speed @1:37:

I've noticed this solution often while looking at mopeds parked in the streets.

Another thing that I've noticed is the writing "COM" on the fork axle holder: apparently, the compression is adjusted there, which means that probably the fork has an open chamber and not a closed chamber.

I don't know how much it's necessary to have braided brake lines.

The machined instead of cast triple clamps are also peculiar on a budget bike. I mean, I've just taken a look at some pictures of 2025 CRF 450s and the triple clamps look cast.

In that video they show that it has a swappable battery. 5.3 kwh is good for that weight.

I guess it's OK to have fun on trails, maybe you should keep an eye on every possible damage during the first rides to understand where some protection should be added.

I don't think that it will suck to ride this bike, maybe it could have minor problems that you can adapt to, like a power delivery you may not like.

To me the problem is that, while I'd be surprised to find out that Surron goes bankrupt, unfortunately I wouldn't be so surprised about an unknown manufacturer and at that point the buyer could end up not having support and spare parts availability anymore.

I've never ridden a PDS shock before, but they are apparently better for technical hard-enduro type riding, where linkages are better for fast desert and motocross-type riding. Since I only ride boulder-infested woods, the linkless rear end will likely be fine for me.
As for the forks, they adjust the same as both my CRF250X and my CR125R (both have cast triple clamps, BTW). 'Course, I bought both new in 2008, so maybe tech has changed. Both work great in my boulders though, so I think the forks will be fine too. Travel is slightly shorter than typical MX bikes by a couple inches (~10" travel), but I'm looking forward to the slightly lower seat height (I'm short).

 

[FYR]

I've never ridden a PDS shock before, but they are apparently better for technical hard-enduro type riding, where linkages are better for fast desert and motocross-type riding. Since I only ride boulder-infested woods, the linkless rear end will likely be fine for me.
As for the forks, they adjust the same as both my CRF250X and my CR125R (both have cast triple clamps, BTW). 'Course, I bought both new in 2008, so maybe tech has changed. Both work great in my boulders though, so I think the forks will be fine too. Travel is slightly shorter than typical MX bikes by a couple inches (~10" travel), but I'm looking forward to the slightly lower seat height (I'm short).

I loved my PDS bikes. I think the only reason KTM ditched it was because of marketing pressure. I cannot believe how someone on this forum attacked this bike because of a non-linkage rear suspension - sad. If Stark offered a sub 230lb Varg that happened to have a non-linkage rear suspension, and had a quick swappable battery, I'd jump at it.

 

[Theo]

I loved my PDS bikes. I think the only reason KTM ditched it was because of marketing pressure. I cannot believe how someone on this forum attacked this bike because of a non-linkage rear suspension - sad. If Stark offered a sub 230lb Varg that happened to have a non-linkage rear suspension, and had a quick swappable battery, I'd jump at it.

I think you are talking about my comment: I wasn’t actually attacking the bike, just trying to give an opinion as technical and unbiased as possible to someone who asked for opinions about a bike that few people have tested. I just hoped to raise JayC’s awareness of what he is buying and to hopefully get more comments about that solution.
To rephrase my comment about the rear shock, I just pointed out that, from what we can see, they achieved progression of the rear suspension by using a progressive spring (and I guess progressive damping like in your PDS bikes) and I know that it’s peculiar for a dirtbike. I don’t know whether that solution on this bike will work very well or not well at all.