Stark Varg EX range

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Here are some first impressions, jump at 23:00 for some perspectives about range compared to MX.

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Doesn't tell much but promising, he's gonna do something more thorough in a couple of days and no doubt we'll have lot more data and more vids about EX range pretty soon (expecting something from Enduro enforcer as well).

And apparently US owners get a Killswitch.
 
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OpaTsupa said:
Another video:


This is interesting for the USA market.

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Yes handbrake is standard anywhere in the world with footbrake as a paying option, except for the US where footbrake is required for road homologation (and they provide handbrake as a courtesy).
They all come with plate holder to mount and integrated turn signals, front turn signals are road homologated for EU, so only an extra rearset is provided in EU. The US get their own front and back turn signals sets for road homologation (larger than the EU kit).
 
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Some years ago I've seen incredible figures for what it cost to import and make street legal a single off road bike to the USA.
It can only be higher now.
With keeping dealers and almost every customer personally sweet must be major outlays for Stark.
 
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Shane did a first range test on a heavy track, calls it pretty much worse case scenario, in these conditions EX got about 10% more range than MX (26.6 vs 24 miles range extrapolated to 0, about an extra 10 min for this test, 1h42 vs 1h31).


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That was pretty fair, although I wish he said more about the bike itself and the handling.

He makes too many excuses for old people. :D

I've been thinking about Stark Varg daily for about six months, and there is one easy and overwhelming conclusion:
There is no off road bike you can get for love or money with the advantages of the Varg.
And that is likely to remain for at least next 3-5 years.
 
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I rode 50 miles off road today. I rode pretty hard in the woods with a decent amount of single track. Battery drain is rarely linear but my calculated range was staying pretty consistent through out the ride. It was a warm day for here, 85*f. About 43 miles total range, or as I translate it in my head, 4.3 miles per 10%. I was hoping for better. That is only slightly better than my Zero.

I still have some testing to do on the street. I think 60 - 70 miles is possible if you keep the speed below 45mph and don't do wheelies every ten feet....I have yet to succeed at not doing that. What little I've ridden it on the freeway, it has horrible efficiency there. Way worse than my Zero. I did one 3 mile trip at 65mph and lost 20+%, which is really bad. I'm hoping that was just an outlier
 
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Here's an interesting view of battery drain:


"Three Laps… Two Pit Stops and mud lots and lots of mud! Finished with 1%. left.
The 1st pit stop was about 10min long. [recharged from 55% to 61%]
The 2nd pit stop was about 15min long.[recharged from 13% to 32%]"
 
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I rode 50 miles off road today. I rode pretty hard in the woods with a decent amount of single track. Battery drain is rarely linear but my calculated range was staying pretty consistent through out the ride. It was a warm day for here, 85*f. About 43 miles total range, or as I translate it in my head, 4.3 miles per 10%. I was hoping for better. That is only slightly better than my Zero.

I still have some testing to do on the street. I think 60 - 70 miles is possible if you keep the speed below 45mph and don't do wheelies every ten feet....I have yet to succeed at not doing that. What little I've ridden it on the freeway, it has horrible efficiency there. Way worse than my Zero. I did one 3 mile trip at 65mph and lost 20+%, which is really bad. I'm hoping that was just an outlier
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My daily commute is about 40 miles on mostly backroads and I arrive back home with about 30% on the clock. That's running it hard on twisty roads, the in and back is the highlight of my day which makes the MX the perfect bike for me.

I used to do the same on a GasGas EC300, still have it but it mostly just sits in the garage now. It's a phenomenal bike but now it seems a chore, it's loud, it's snotty and it's always trying to spit me off. I spent years on it and was accustomed to it but the Varg is something else.

Last weekend I spent five hours on the 300 for a destination on really tight roads, it was exhausting. The whole time I was thinking this would be so much easier on the Varg (couldn't because range)... maybe I'm just getting old.
 
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My daily commute is about 40 miles on mostly backroads and I arrive back home with about 30% on the clock. That's running it hard on twisty roads, the in and back is the highlight of my day which makes the MX the perfect bike for me.

I used to do the same on a GasGas EC300, still have it but it mostly just sits in the garage now. It's a phenomenal bike but now it seems a chore, it's loud, it's snotty and it's always trying to spit me off. I spent years on it and was accustomed to it but the Varg is something else.

Last weekend I spent five hours on the 300 for a destination on really tight roads, it was exhausting. The whole time I was thinking this would be so much easier on the Varg (couldn't because range)... maybe I'm just getting old.
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What is your highest sustained speed on your commute?
The biggest problem I have with the EX is the seat - spending 2 hours on that thing is consider a torture device according to Geneva conventions. Still waiting for my aftermarket seat. My commute is only 6-7 miles depending how I go about it, but it is all surface streets, sadly. So far, even with my liberal throttle use, I'm seeing around 9-10% one way, which works out to 60-70 miles, but if I can ever dial down the power and cruise at reasonable speeds, it might increase the range a bit
 
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What is your highest sustained speed on your commute?
The biggest problem I have with the EX is the seat - spending 2 hours on that thing is consider a torture device according to Geneva conventions. Still waiting for my aftermarket seat. My commute is only 6-7 miles depending how I go about it, but it is all surface streets, sadly. So far, even with my liberal throttle use, I'm seeing around 9-10% one way, which works out to 60-70 miles, but if I can ever dial down the power and cruise at reasonable speeds, it might increase the range a bit
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Probably 70mph in a stretch or two.

Do yourself a favor and order a Guts seat, looks just like the factory seat but it's much softer. The material is really harsh though, you'll not want to ride it without pants.

Dialing down the power won't increase your range, it's all about throttle. Using 30% throttle at 80hp uses the exact same amount of energy as using whatever the scale is at 40hp. I've tried this ad neausium with my electric vehicles, you're using what you're using to attain whatever speed you attain... don't overthink it.
 
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