BEST Replacement Side Stand KIT?

[Chaconne]

Go and ride any Chinese Dirtbike. Their expensive ones for fair comparison.

They just can't seem to figure out how to make a proper riding one E or ICE.
The EXE880 is closest in the E market. The price gap is 2000, but in way of performance the gap is much wider.

I think they can easily match performance the question is do they want to. Kove is ok and CFMoto competes very well in markets they go after. CFMoto was rumored to be making parts for KTM.

Seems the Chinese motorcycle manufacturers are where the Japanese were 40 years ago but the market has changed and the volumes in the US and Europe just are not the same and don't appeal that much to a developing economy's growth curve. Plus, India and China have humongous internal markets of their own to serve which the Japanese never had.

 

[Erwin P]

They can easily match quality, that's not an issue. They do lack the experience from dozens of years of competition racing though.
And where they are matching quality and performance the bikes arn't that much cheaper either. Talked to a few dealers and the biggest chunk of the pricegap is in their margins, not on the actual price of the product they receive.
Kove has a OK bike, very good for its money but it still performs kinda budget compared to the Euro bikes.
CF isn't rumored to build KTM parts, they build the entire 790/890 platforms. However on KTM designs, not KTM slapping stickers on CF's.

 

[Chaconne]

They can easily match quality, that's not an issue. They do lack the experience from dozens of years of competition racing though.
And where they are matching quality and performance the bikes arn't that much cheaper either. Talked to a few dealers and the biggest chunk of the pricegap is in their margins, not on the actual price of the product they receive.
Kove has a OK bike, very good for its money but it still performs kinda budget compared to the Euro bikes.
CF isn't rumored to build KTM parts, they build the entire 790/890 platforms. However on KTM designs, not KTM slapping stickers on CF's.

Yes agreed. My guess is the Chinese will largely take a pass on dirtbikes and dirtbike racing unless it can appeal to developing markets. They and the Indians are looking for volume sales of manufactured goods. As it is now the Japanese pretty much make offroad bikes for high priced advertising in the US (like Honda) and KTM's collapse in Europe would be another reason for a reluctance to engage more fully in the dirt/ohv motorcycle market.

 

[Erwin P]

But the Japanese all but gave up on dirtbikes as well. The past decade has been bald new graphics if anything.

KTM's collapse was on everything except their dirtbikes though.
Dirtbikes are still a good high margin market, just one the Japanese pretty much forgot about.