Stark co. - Suggestion box

happyinmotion said:
I'd love for the regen to be controlled from the rear brake lever. And then to get rid of the rear brake completely.
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That's an even better idea!

Imagine if they made it so you could modulate the regen within the dead stroke of the rear brake lever. It would be so simple to use and great for long loose descents where regen braking would be enough but you want modulation.
 
My Zero had this - regen while braking, adjustable on the app. I could never make out how much it would regen while braking, but the initial deceleration was impossible to dose when in highest setting.

Using either the LHB or pedal for solo either would likely give a better satisfaction with the higher regen of the Varg.
 
Erwin P said:
No because engine brake and actual brake do the opposite for your rear suspension and squad.
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This is a very important point that no one ever mentions.
Regen will slow the bike without upsetting the suspension.

Not just the rear but more significantly the front suspension while going down a steep descent. Not compressing the forks and putting pressure on the front wheel with the brake is a major advantage of this bike that no ICE bike can match.

What's mentioned above I can easily do with the controller buttons.
My high regen modes are 85% - 60% - 40% and I go down them as descent flattens or becomes easier.
Bike reacts perfectly.

I also ride a 2T with a foot brake and just that input is causing ~10% higher heart rate and fatigue in the legs.
 
No in many cases you actually want the rear brake effect, not the engine brake/regen.

With the rear brake the rear gets pulled down. In je corner that is extra grip (the whole reason MX riders use it). Downhill that means less tilting forward and thus less crashing.
Regen/engine brake makes you tilt forward. Less grip in the corners and more tumbling forward on the downhills.

A big advantage of a LHRB downhill is that when it's so steep you have to "walk" it pulls the rear wheel to the ground. With a foot brake or engine brake from clutch slipping and OFF ICE it rotates forwards and makes it down "faster".
 
I can see why the timer is necessary... Having someone giving the bike an accidental twist of the throttle when they think it's off could send the damn thing to the moon.

But how about this-- have a countdown timer or slowly decreasing bar graph shown on the display. And have it reset it at least hold if the brakes are being held.
 
Throttle mapping needs to be adjustable. 80hp is completely useless with the current throttle mapping. People who paid extra for the Alpha mode should get their money back until they actually fix this.
 
Probably one of the easiest requests on this thread and one myself and the AMA has been asking for since the Stark was released 42 months ago. Have a noisemaker on the bike so it is allowed to race in AMA races with ICE bikes. Make it so it can be turned off when riding trails, with buddies, etc. Stark already has a locked "race mode" that limits HP for 24 hours. It could also lock the noisemaker on for 24 hours. I love my Starks, but it's ridiculous to spend 10-14k on a bike and it's not legal to ride in AMA motocross over a sub-$100 optional part that motocrossers would pay to add. Many tracks around me (Idaho, Utah, Nevada) are moving to AMA sactioning due to insurance, so every year less and less tracks are available to race. It's such a sovable problem and Stark keeps stonewalling the AMA, all while releasing videos with Anton saying "I don't know why the AMA won't let us race??"
 
If also like to have a version of the app on my personal phone so I could remotely log in and check charge status, change charge level, check location, it whatever else is available.
 
bikesarebest said:
I would love to see a way to control regenerative braking in real time. Regen is great, but sometimes I want it strong, other times I don't want it at all.

I want Stark to release a mod to make the foot brake into a regenerative brake controller for those running the left hand rear brake setup.

If Stark were to make this an option, I'd install it immediately.
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I just bought an electric motion and it came with a small lever that is attached to the clutch lever that does exactly that. It allows to use engine regen just like a brake. It is great to modulate and given enough space it brings the bike to a stop but not as effective as the foot brakes.
It is perfect in most case to slow down the bike. EM also allows you to tune how strong you want the regen with this lever. (and you don't have to pay extra to have access to this tuning).
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Erwin P said:
Let me begin with that i love the bike. But some things can and should be better. It's the most premium bike i've ever owned, but some stuff feels really Aliexpress.

- Ditch the phone dashboard. Too many times it didn't work properly on both the MX1.0 or the Demo EX's. Also it's way too easy to steal if you park it and MX pants don't have pockets so you end up walking around with the phone in your hand like some teenage screen addict.

- Handlebar buttons that press a little deeper so you have better feedback that you actually did push the button and it was not stuck (wich it does from time to time, might as well fix that while at it).

- Fast charging with more chargers parallel.

- An onboard mountable charger. Doesn't need to be full 3,3kW if that's too big. Just something that can be mounted or dismounted on the bike and has some charging power to get you going or charge over night/work.

- Some storage space. We can't even store our car keys let alone some tools. There is plenty off free space under the seat, now some way to use it.

- Less sharp grips to lift the bike. The bike is not a lightweight and the stand is high. To make the lifting points sharp is just to torture riders.

- Ditch the centerstand. Noboby who owned a Stark over a week liked the thing and almost everyone build the charger into something else. Safe yourself and us some money and the enviroment some garbage that will never be used... just forget about it. It's just too heavy to move around frequently.

- The charge cap is annoying and delicate. It falls apart all the time and requires very subtle movements. Something that cannot be expected from people who just gave it their all on the track. The MX 1.0 Gen 1 had a wonderfull cap that worked just fine.

- Speed sensor in the wheel. Now changing gearing puts everything off and the EX is geared way too short for street riding. Just put a speed sensor in the front wheel and everything is fixed (even rear wheel if you must). At least KTM and Beta use it as well so no excuses about some regulations.

- The sidestand still sucks and feels like it's gonna tip over or snap all the time (wich it both does from time to time). Look at any Enduro brand and do what they do. There are some Chinese options that work wonderfull, might just buy their design? I do buy it anyways because i like my stuff to work.

- Some more back-up would be nice.
If the buttons get stuck or broken there is no way to get the bike going. We have a big fat screen on our handlebar. As long as we have that we might as well get some use from it. Give us a override emergency page to overrule the switch.

- Another in the back-up category. If the phone breaks, gets lost, stolen (see point 1) etc etc you're pretty much blind. Make an app for Android and iOS that can at least look at the battery percentage and map settings. No need to change it perse if that's too hard. I just want to know if i need to charge and what map settings i run.
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great points about the map switch.......
 
After an incident in the weekend's race, my idea for a new function would be to utilize the built-in accelrometer to switch the bike into neutral when I crash, and the bike lies flat on the ground. One of my crashes was with the twistgrip down between some rocks, and when I lifted it up (using the twistgrip as my lifting point), I somehow managed to twist it a little, resulting in the bike flipping backwards with me as a terrified spectator :eek:
Nothing bad happened, but if one of my competitors had passed me at that very moment, I would have sent the bike directly at him.

This function must of course be configurable. Measuring that a bike falls down and stays down laying flat should be very stright-forward with the electronics in the motor controller (or in the phone).
 
Anders said:
After an incident in the weekend's race, my idea for a new function would be to utilize the built-in accelrometer to switch the bike into neutral when I crash, and the bike lies flat on the ground. One of my crashes was with the twistgrip down between some rocks, and when I lifted it up (using the twistgrip as my lifting point), I somehow managed to twist it a little, resulting in the bike flipping backwards with me as a terrified spectator :eek:
Nothing bad happened, but if one of my competitors had passed me at that very moment, I would have sent the bike directly at him.

This function must of course be configurable. Measuring that a bike falls down and stays down laying flat should be very stright-forward with the electronics in the motor controller (or in the phone).
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They have implemented a solution like this to participate in FIM championships (World supercross, EnduroGP, Hard Enduro World Championship).
Not sure if it involves any extra hardware or if it's purely software.

The World of Motorcycling- View

www.fim-moto.com www.fim-moto.com

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Yes, you are right. I remember there was some talk about this when Stark wanted to participate in the Superenduro World championship for the first time. I had forgotten all about it.
 
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