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I wouldn't expect much... been out a year ish, and I believe 2600€
Kove also brought an eMX.
...and there were pictures of a temu Varg as well.

Yup, just, "Here it is. Feel free to speculate on specs or timeline, cuz we ain't telling you shit!" Never understood this strategy. You know what worked? Stark providing intimate detail from Day 1. Built the expectation and met it in reality/production.I would say the same for the Hero eBike.
They gave absolutely no information about it.
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It's amazing how many new E and gas off-road bikes were shown at EICMA, but you can not buy or even read about 90% of them.
EICMA is a trade show, so alot of what you'll see are concepts/preproduction. Most of these smaller companies are looking for partnership in one way or another, be it importing, manufacturing etc. The bikes are there to get investors in the door.It's amazing how many new E and gas off-road bikes were shown at EICMA, but you can not buy or even read about 90% of them.

Do you not consider the Arctic Leopard EXE 880 a full size bike?But the only full size offering is the Stark.
The only real reason Stark is currently successful is the headline act... 80hp. If it had come out with say 50hp, people would have said "good fit and finish" then carried on with their lives and another start up would be struggling.The more I look at the current market offerings I have come to my own conclusion no one is building what I want, so I built my own using the Don Cox formula.
On a positive note it is awesome we have all these new options, Sur Ron started a whole category, reasonable cost, ever increasing power, quick swap batteries are all great. Now there are some really good 3/4 or 7/8 size bikes, also good.
But the only full size offering is the Stark. It’s successful and it’s a nice bike but I think it misses the mark, it’s heavy and you can’t quick swap the battery. Also the amount of power is impressive but is it usable?
I think the market needs a full size offering with traditional geometry, with a frame design that’s bullet proof (pick any modern chassis). Make it possible to quick swap batteries, and have short range (low weight) batteries and long range (higher weight) batteries where the rider can choose what option they need. Power 40-50 KW.
Sell it for $6,500 to $7,000 - keep costs down by using Japanese brand wheels, suspension etc - just use what works and what is readily available. Relatively small changes to the existing Japanese frames could make all this work.
Yamaha should just hire Don and then do what he says, it’s crazy Don is friends with Kenny Roberts, maybe Kenny can twist Yamaha’s arm to just do it.