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  1. Swank171

    Electric Motion Escape XR! Ultra bee competitor?

    I had the OSET 20 for my son at the same time as the electric motion epure. I can tell you the electric motion is one of the nicest most well put together bikes and has incredible performance. It’s on par, and very competitive with the gas trials bikes
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    Electric Motion Escape XR! Ultra bee competitor?

    I agree with that 100%. Bummed me out to see they stuck with that lower voltage when it was released.
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    Electric Motion Escape XR! Ultra bee competitor?

    I have spoken to the two dealerships near me. I previously owned the pure and loved it. This battery is quite a bit larger than the Escape R. Although it is better than the escape or I’m still wondering how it stacks up to the Ultra Bee. The footprint looks almost identical. The wait is almost...
  4. Swank171

    Electric Motion Escape XR! Ultra bee competitor?

    https://www.electric-motion.fr/en/models/escape-xr Looks like it’s about the same weight and foot print. Slightly less in peak power but premium components and a hydraulic clutch…. What is your guys take on it? Since stark stiffed me I’m looking for something to ride the pit bike track and...
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    Dealership delivery

    Shoot me a PM.
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    Some info regarding US orders/deliveries

    The funny thing is I think the customers who bought and are locked in to the previous price are the e ones getting screwed because stark couldn’t care less if we take our orders since in their eyes they lose 1k$ a unit and that was the majority of the orders. I’m so irritated. I ordered Dec...
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    Dealership delivery

    Paid in full….man. What is stark doing?? When was your “delivery date” I know people are getting their e mails for payment who have delivery dates way after mine. One orders his bike a week after me and he’s getting payment e mails and I am still hearing crickets haha. I’m just gonna get...
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    E-bikes banned at FIM SuperEnduro - - Last minute rule change

    I get what you are saying but at the highest level. The stark you aren’t upgrading those things…you aren’t in a battery that needs upgrading or a controller you need more out of. Also you are talking about upgrades you choose…. The market that is the most lucrative is the maintenance market...
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    E-bikes banned at FIM SuperEnduro - - Last minute rule change

    The only thing going to be lit on fire is the service and aftermarket these dealers and factories love so much. No more valve adjustments, not more top ends, not more motor grenadine, no more pipes and silencers, no more hp gains from whatever part you need someone to install. Even for us who...
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    Electro and Co ETM Mini or V2

    Isn’t this company owned by ma member here? You’d think they would chime in…..mistakes are fine when there is accountability and you make it right…. Bummed to hear this experience…we appreciate the heads up. I’ll be sure to send this link when people ask my thoughts on E&C
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    Removing the phone cradle

    Im about this!!
  12. Swank171

    Received my email from Stark “ready for production”

    Ya, I’ve been watching this one drop in price weekly in Washington state. He started at 15k Firm I think it’s worth it and a good deal at that….just shows us where the market is going.
  13. Swank171

    Received my email from Stark “ready for production”

    100% the dealer isn’t getting a penny from me. I’ll bring a friend and load the crate in my truck. These guys are crooks. The fact that they thing it’s worth 400$ to put a bike together that I’m asking them not to…beyond me. “We are not allowed to give you a bike not assembled, so that’ll be...
  14. Swank171

    Certificate of Origin for DMV

    I did see that, and even grouchy it up to him. He said he has the mso but they were told CARB doesn’t recognize the bike and your situation must be a rare situation. He said they will give me a red sticker. It’s just amazing to me how wrong these dealers are on so many things….
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    Received my email from Stark “ready for production”

    I’m starting to wonder how “non refundable” it is when they have rugged the original agreement. They were very clear it was direct to consumer in the original agreement we purchased under.
  16. Swank171

    Received my email from Stark “ready for production”

    I live and work in CA. I was just going to have it shipped there and a friend sign and bring it to me. None of this was really something I had to consider when it was getting shipped to door.
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    Received my email from Stark “ready for production”

    I have my account to CA and was just changing my shipping destination and stark was fine with that….I haven’t asked about switching dealers since they changed the model. What part of MT are you in and what dealership did you decide to take delivery to? All good info! Thank you!
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    Received my email from Stark “ready for production”

    This is true….although there is a difference. I have another residence it could have been delivered to in MT and I could have had a friend bring it down when he heads back to ca. I even spoke to stark about this. TAX is charged based on SHIPPING zip code, NOT your home address. So in this odd...
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