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This 100%. As good as Stark is, there is much more to come and be addressed in the e-bike field. Weight and range and personal tuning all remain challenges. Gas bikes will be forced to get better, maybe more displacement, the return of big 2 Strokes, Works bikes from unknown companies (Tesla)...

I'm in the market by the fall. Not 100% on the Varg, thinking of building an Electro and Co. YZF? The pricing shakedown could be fun, including Beta closing out the '24's. Keeping my powder dry for a few months.

I’m not even a big fan of age. Group riders by skill.

Less rules is better. Settle it on the racetrack.

Are you AgileMike on Vital? A new post covers this subject, with Mike's responses. Re: Stark-My conversation with Mike Burkeen, AMA Deputy Director of Racing First, I will say that I'm seeing progress, a post on e-bikes that hasn't turned into a complete shit show. GuyB booted me a few years...

I don't think the one at Temecula is a demo for $11,999? It looks like dealers sitting on inventory are starting to discount new bikes.

I think around $1200 freight, setup, and doc. I think? The thing I am wondering is now that dealers are sitting on inventory, and warehouse’s too, and the market is soft, what are people seeing for prices?

There are several brands that could compete with prototypes. There has never been a better reason for an unlimited open class, with R&D in its infancy. Nobody knows where the technology will take us, solid state batteries, hybrid etc.

Dave Prater with Feld said that SX is working on a “exhibition” class? TBD what that means.

I have seen a demo for $10k.

Burkeen has his finger in the dike.

There’s no replacement for the competitive advantage in racing of a lightweight quick swap setup. Smaller/lighter performance benefits outweigh the disadvantages of range.

Most rules are unenforceable. Open class is common in off road any ways. The AMA “safety” is a smokescreen for “money” for OEM’s.

While your intentions are noble, more rules and handicaps aren’t necessary. J-Day doesn’t use any additional rules AFAIK? As soon as the Honda is released, the rules will change.?

This matches more what I am discerning from the multitude of video's and posts and sources. Obviously there hasn't been any scientific comparison, I'd imagine if you put 5 bikes doing the same course at the same pace all with different settings you may be able to make some valid comparisons? I...

So Don finished 45 minutes barely. He was trying to switch down the maps but was pushing the wrong button. I have seen others do this. He rode the whole way at 48 hp 100 regen.

It seems that most believe that 100% regen will get maximum range? I am not convinced.

What’s proving to be the best solution? What Gearing and settings have been tested and what were the results? The questions I am trying to find answers to are what works best: * Smaller or larger rear sprocket • More or less regen • More or less HP Not so interested in theories as actual...

I think the best solution will be a bike that can run with 1 or 2 hot swap batteries. There are 3/4-7/8 sized bikes with less battery that are beating 450’s in local MX.

Stark had a PR saying No thanks. They want to race the gas bikes.