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Fair enough. Although when I asked I was thinking in terms: ADV = 99% asphalt + 1% offroad. As for TET, I can tell you that you'd be properly buggered if you tried to ride that Himalayan on TET that passes through my village. ;) Also, easier to find gas than a supermarket that will let you use...

What is for you the appeal of an EV ADV bike? To put it differently, all the advantages of an EV off-road bike like no clutch and gearbox, rhrb, adjustable power etc. aren't so important on the ADV bike. Also, big ADV bikes seem so well developed that it's hard see how an EV can match them.

Not sure where else to post this so it may as well go here. Eddie Karlsson’s Factory Stark Varg EX – His Hard Enduro setup [40hp / 80 regen]

Around 60-70g depending on the type. My excuse for not balancing the wheels is that the wobble is a good reminder to keep the speed down on asphalt connecting sections. Nothing good happens on those.

Update: It looks like they are all in Estonia. :) https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1LMaEwXEnE/

Sorry all. It seems the original uploader (almost accurately named: Magnus Thor) took it down and reuploaded a different version. It's the same race Eddi Karlsson did last year on the factory MX. Here's the link once again...

A very rare video of Varg EX actually racing in real terrain: [corrected link] [hard to see the display and judge the range]

Do they have another bike to give you immediately, or will you need to wait the usual delivery time? Depressing that such small software "bug" is unfixable. I can't imagine what will happen when all these bikes are out of warranty, and Stark decides to roll back the generous replacements.

This sounds like a job for the AI module. Feed it MX and EX part numbers, have it compare them and list odds and evens. So, who volunteers for the job? :D

This is from some Facebook group, so take it for what it is.

Here's an interesting view of battery drain: "Three Laps… Two Pit Stops and mud lots and lots of mud! Finished with 1%. left. The 1st pit stop was about 10min long. [recharged from 55% to 61%] The 2nd pit stop was about 15min long.[recharged from 13% to 32%]"

I experienced poor communication with Stark while attempting to place an order, but I must forgive them when I see all the dumb complaints from the new owners floating around. Dealing with that sort of correspondence deserves it's own level of hell.

Erwin, Could it be that your KTM wheels that fitted had brake disc for Beta? They are not the same as the KTM.

I'd really appreciate if anyone has a contact to someone senior at Stark. The bot-person answering the sales@starkfuture.com emails is hopeless. If giving them money is this difficult, I worry how it will be when claiming warranty.

That's what's odd about it. They even suggested the dealer in Serbia to whom they must sell without the VAT in the first place. Montenegro has 21% VAT on everything just like in the EU. Even the local currency is Euro. I've bought a few motorcycles from the EU. They send me an invoice ex-VAT, I...

No, being road legal doesn't matter at this point. I'm trying to place an order, and I need a price without VAT because this country is outside of the EU and VAT system. There's nothing unusual about that, but the Stark bot can't seem to grasp it.

Montenegro. Vague and contradictory is exactly what I'm getting, and I'm not even asking anything out of the ordinary. If I wasn't familiar with the brand and the product I'd be turning away as if from a base scam.

Does anyone have a direct contact to a real person in Stark's sales department? I've been going round in circles with a certain "Benjamin" who claims he's not an Ai bot while acting exactly like one.