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What would be great would be if in situ upgrades were possible. So the platform would remain intact (connectors & etc) and the user would get the improvements with upgraded cell capacity.

This is so true. Plus, there are good dealerships with guys who actually ride and sell Starks and treat their customers good and are ambassadors for the brand, and then there are others just looking to be stealerships. Here in the Northeast USA I do business with MotorbikesPlus in New...

How about they pony up for a dropbox where customers can drop off necessary information like videos. If they are going to try to do customer service they need basic business tools. Its like 1985 all over again. o_O

Yes. But that was 10 years ago. If Alta had stayed on course and was able to grow they might have stayed on top of market with developments. Woulda, coulda, shoulda I know... Europe is a much more natural place for development of new motorcycles anyway, since Europe has a true motorcycle...

Agreed 💯

Alta probably got a pass because it was American made and once allowed it wouldn't really be fair to not allow others. If American companies were still in the game I don't think the AMA would have been as easily pushed around by the Japanese and other ICE companies.

I have some previous posts around here about the powerswitch. I ride mostly hard enduro and it is very swampy I have crashed my bike and submerged the switch in mud and it has failed far out in the woods. I have done this more than once. The switches need rubberboots. I know the Stark guys...

Anything you pay for with that dealer use a credit card. If something further goes wrong just threaten a charge back dispute procedure on your card. It is kind of like a stop payment on a check but better since previously authorized funds can be charged back from the merchant to your card in a...

Did you buy your bike from an authorized dealer? If so, that is bullshit for the dealer to let the bike out the door like that.

Great points @UKLee. The pegs should be weaker than the mounts. It reminds me of those old Honda 70s where the peg mounts were on the side case. More than one friend caught one those super strong pegs on a low stump. Pegs stayed intact while the engine gushed out oil. That wasn't an easy fix...

You could force it at least on the MX, it might reload the same version which may help if there was corruption. Maybe they changed that on the EX? Corruption can sometimes be caused by a power hiccup or a temporary condition like water invasion. I would definitely try to reflash it if...

Well it can't get your 100.00 back, but for what its worth, I don't think you should take with more than a grain of salt postings on the internet either. I have owned 2 Starks now and I also have a 2020 KTM 300 TPI and a 2015 WR450F and the Stark is comparable in quality and reliability to...

Have you tried a firmware update? Not sure if it is the same on ex as mx but might be worth a try. On the MX you depress the mode buttons at the same time for 15 or so seconds.

Sorry did you purchase from a dealership or did you buy online? I have purchased 2 Stark Varg MXs and had no problems with either except the tubes over the past 2 years. My first one was stolen after the first year of ownership I was very happy with it. So I bought an exact version from the...

Ya sorry to hear that. I am guessing Stark either got threatened with a lawsuit or maybe even had a lawsuit with regard to somebody DIY'ing something they had no clue about. I am kind of lucky there is a great dealer within a half-hour from me who I have done business with for years buying KTMs...

Agreed. SW is almost always the problem and AI hacks won't make it better and it may make it worse. I have already seen examples where know-nothings rush a fix in that AI generated, check it in since the snake oilers told them it is flawless cuz it is AI (which is really software). Only to...

A Varg dedicated platform might be worse. That would mean it would be totally proprietary and things would probably never get better or improve and Stark would have to do all the development and train developers on their platform. Either that or farm it out. I spent the first 15 years of my...

I hear you UK. But just remember when dealing with the public not everyone has as much wrenching experience as you do. The lawyers use the Darwin Awards as a baseline when advising about public use cases. Stark's teams and their dealers doing something limits their liability. Here in the US if...

This is what happens when you have folks in a motorcycle house try to be software/firmware engineers because some bean counter convinced them that controlling the platform was the key to ongoing revenue. Stark is far from the only company doing this, not that it makes it right --just saying. No...

Actually, I don't think they have many problems and what they are doing is shaving costs by keeping staff numbers at their service center small --that is why service is slow and at times unavailable. The internet tends to exaggerate problem/issues. I have bought 2 Starks (MX) over the last 2...