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I ride dirt bikes because they are the most effective tool for navigating difficult terrain. Better than any invention to date for distance and conditions. Hard enduro pushes this technology to its limits. But the vehicles of the future are likely to be very different from a wheeled machine...

Foot peg breaks fairly easy. Break at ~47

Not gunna lie - this pisses me off as a day 1 order.

There are way more surrons in the USA than Vargs.

How do the Chinese bikes pass regulations and are able to be shipped door to door - but a quality bike like the Varg cant? Also - California sucks.

The Ultra Bee has my eye also. May be better for the woods riding I prefer anyways. 70 lbs lighter, plenty of power, and a removable battery - not to mention half the price even with upgrades.

It has really soured me I admit. I was very defensive of Stark early on. It wouldnt have taken much to keep good will, and I fear it will cost them in the long run. I delayed my order and will likely not take delivery now - which is a huge swing for me in the last 2 years. Being an early...

Same for me. I delayed it as it would arrive in the dead of winter with snow cover and below freezing temperatures. Not good conditions for an electric bike. I have to admit that the talaria dragon is tempting me. Half the price, 220 lbs, full size bike, wheels, suspension. It isn't 80hp but...

Agree on all of these points. I feel the vast majority here recognize the leaps in technological advancement on this bike. Thank you by the way. It is unfortunate that the recent lack of transparency and communication is marring this accomplishment. This isn't just about patience. Personally...

I may be a bad example because I make a living managing large complex projects and far out dates. I understand too well the art of setting a date you cant keep. The key is communication. Stark is showing its inexperience here. They overpromised a lot of things - not just the grossly...

Bottom line for me - dont overpromise and underdeliver. I dont care if thats par for the course. Its bad business practice.

I fault no one for communicating a delay and setting a new date. Which Stark did. Once. A second or third delay is a sign of a problem.

I'm disappointed with the communication - not the delays. Delaying a year is one thing - but delivering a bike in mid December might as well be next spring in my location. The timing is just really bad.

Same for me. Very dissapointing. I check to site daily so it must have changed this morning.

There should already be low voltage wiring on the bike for the cooling fan, phone charger, etc.