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I experienced poor communication with Stark while attempting to place an order, but I must forgive them when I see all the dumb complaints from the new owners floating around. Dealing with that sort of correspondence deserves it's own level of hell.

Erwin, Could it be that your KTM wheels that fitted had brake disc for Beta? They are not the same as the KTM.

I'd really appreciate if anyone has a contact to someone senior at Stark. The bot-person answering the sales@starkfuture.com emails is hopeless. If giving them money is this difficult, I worry how it will be when claiming warranty.

That's what's odd about it. They even suggested the dealer in Serbia to whom they must sell without the VAT in the first place. Montenegro has 21% VAT on everything just like in the EU. Even the local currency is Euro. I've bought a few motorcycles from the EU. They send me an invoice ex-VAT, I...

No, being road legal doesn't matter at this point. I'm trying to place an order, and I need a price without VAT because this country is outside of the EU and VAT system. There's nothing unusual about that, but the Stark bot can't seem to grasp it.

Montenegro. Vague and contradictory is exactly what I'm getting, and I'm not even asking anything out of the ordinary. If I wasn't familiar with the brand and the product I'd be turning away as if from a base scam.

Does anyone have a direct contact to a real person in Stark's sales department? I've been going round in circles with a certain "Benjamin" who claims he's not an Ai bot while acting exactly like one.

Kudos to him for actually using and racing the bike. There are many who had the bike for two months and didn't contribute anything to general knowledge. And I'm not even talking about the influencer clowns.

That was pretty fair, although I wish he said more about the bike itself and the handling. He makes too many excuses for old people. :D I've been thinking about Stark Varg daily for about six months, and there is one easy and overwhelming conclusion: There is no off road bike you can get...

Android phones typically have this option: Could it be that there is same setting in Stark phone.

My impression is that they again overpromised, and handicapped themselves with too many variants. Henry Ford still knows better after 100 years. It's possible that the reason for delays is a bit embarrassing for them, otherwise they'd be blaming suppliers and "global situation" like you...

Yes, it's neat. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1759367624993174

Are they hot? I use these Leatt sleeves, and they are soaked in sweat after an hours ride, and I used to think my legs don't sweat at all. I need something for 30C summer weather that won't cook my knees.

Sad to see they still haven't sorted this system. It was the same circa six months ago when I talked to them about an order before EX was announced. The bureaucratic reach-around of paying one VAT, then another VAT and hoping for a refund was an instant red flag. Bosch, you now have a small...

Delivery estimate for new orders isn't much more than a tease, but it went from Jun 25. to Jul 25. Same for USA and Spain. MX Varg is 2K less and immediately available, by the way.

How much did you pay to Stark?

Beside the delivery SNAFU, I am more surprised with what by now looks like a failed launch of the new bike. All that a casual observer can see is endless unboxings and the paywall for one of the key features. They are slowly missing the 2025. Northern Latitudes riding season and potential...