Better Battery

[Alta_mxr]

Fisker Interview

If his claims are correct. 400wh / Kilo or even 500wh / kilo.
That would yield an Alta like bike that could achieve 16kwh battery in 70# package that was built as long as the same volume could be used.
Then by my experience with the bike in off-road conditions you could make it 50miles before the battery indicator disappeared and started flashing. "find the truck"
I could then sell my ICE bike. Sounds like 3 years away but we can hope sooner.

 

[Rix]

Fisker Interview

If his claims are correct. 400wh / Kilo or even 500wh / kilo.
That would yield an Alta like bike that could achieve 16kwh battery in 70# package that was built as long as the same volume could be used.
Then by my experience with the bike in off-road conditions you could make it 50miles before the battery indicator disappeared and started flashing. "find the truck"
I could then sell my ICE bike. Sounds like 3 years away but we can hope sooner.

Hell yah a 16kwh Alta that weighed 270 pounds or less would be AWESOME!!! At this stage, one can dream.

 

[Redwolf]

Hell yah a 16kwh Alta that weighed 270 pounds or less would be AWESOME!!! At this stage, one can dream.

In five years it might be possible, assuming any manufacturer has the appetite to develop one.

 

[evh1]

You just know that the "battery breakthrough " is coming damn soon - alot of folks working on extended life/range stuff. Here's a promising one...if a car goes 600, will an e-bike go 1500 miles?
Someone's building a battery good for a 621-mile range

 

[Redwolf]

Yep, can't turn around these days without seeing another article describing yet another battery breakthrough, and claims that the new tech will double or triple the energy density of current tech. And even if 75% of these claims are vaporware, it's inevitable that there is a commercially produceable tech that will be the next generation of battery coming in the next few years.

I think in 7 to 10 years we will be able to have a 250 lb dirt bike with 60+ hp that can go 200ish miles on a charge. If any mfg will bother to build it...

 

[wildman240]

I'm looking forward to the Mr. Fusion 2000. Drop in a banana peel and a can of beer...bada bing...1.21 gigawatts.

 

[Philip]

You just know that the "battery breakthrough " is coming damn soon - alot of folks working on extended life/range stuff. Here's a promising one...if a car goes 600, will an e-bike go 1500 miles?
Someone's building a battery good for a 621-mile range

From that article: "It is, they claim, the world’s first 1,000 Wh/kg (watt-hours per kilogram) rechargeable battery."

The Alta' battery is about 200 Wh/kg. So, you could make an Alta battery that weighs the same but has a 5 times larger capacity and range, and maybe power.

I think in 7 to 10 years we will be able to have a 250 lb dirt bike with 60+ hp that can go 200ish miles on a charge.

So if the stock Alta has a range of 40 miles, then this new and improved one is supposed to have a range of 200 miles.

 

[Redwolf]

So if the stock Alta has a range of 40 miles, then this new and improved one is supposed to have a range of 200 miles.

If only we knew how long it will take for production techniques and materials to become even relatively cost competitive with current batteries, my best guess based on exactly no facts, is that we are facing a 7+ year wait.

That said, this is a case where I would be happy to be wrong.

 

[TCMB371]

I think in 7 to 10 years we will be able to have a 250 lb dirt bike with 60+ hp that can go 200ish miles on a charge. If any mfg will bother to build it...

If that were to truely happen, that would be the death of the ice bike. It wouldn't even be fair anymore.

 

[Philip]

If that were to truely happen, that would be the death of the ice bike. It wouldn't even be fair anymore.

Only the transcontinental Gold Wings and the noisy/vibrating Haleys would retain ICE.

 

[Philip]

I would love be able to ride the entire TAT (Trans America Trail) on an electeic dirt bike like the Alta, from coast to coast.

 

[Mark911]

I think the future battery will be closer to a "super capacitor" than an electro-chemical device.

 

[Philip]

I wonder how true was the Alta's website claim that they have the "smallest and most energy dense pack in transportation".

Alta Motors|Technology and Design Information

After all, the pack was just 504 Panasonic cells that used mostly each other and the pack"s body as heat sinks and heat exchanger.

 

[Redwolf]

I would love be able to ride the entire TAT (Trans America Trail) on an electeic dirt bike like the Alta, from coast to coast.

All we need to do now is break the trail into 40 mile segments, and have a support truck meet you at each campsite to make it possible with the current technology.