I’ve tested the X-9000 controller on the Ultra Bee. I’m quite disappointed and thought I should point out issues. Hopefully EBMX can resolve them in the future.
Con: Installation will almost completely disable the instrument panel. The only thing still working is the battery indicator. No odometer, speedometer, mode, etc.
Con: Right side controls are completely removed. (Mode switch, ready switch, red kill switch) all gone.
Con: kickstand switch no longer used. EBMX wire harness doesn’t support it either.
Con: front brake switch no longer functional (the wire is completely removed as part of the installation. Your brake light won’t work using the front brake.
Con: Regen by brake switches non-functional.
Con: The provided handlebar display is 15mm wide! That’s it. Good luck reading it at arms length. The speed updates very slow. I could accelerate to 45 and the display still shows 15… and this thing is hard wired!
Con: there is no instructions on how to use the display. Nothing came with it and it’s not on their website.
Con: Reverse switch disabled (wiring doesn’t support it)
Con: traction control disabled (I don’t use, but I’m pointing it out)
Con: the Regen throttle gets in the way of you are using turn signals for street use.
Pro: App is great. Compared to Torp, in my opinion EBMX app is a better interface.
Con: App doesn’t work with all phones. EBMX doesn’t provide a list of phones that are compatible. I had to learn the hard way. My phone gets rejected “by the controller” when trying to connect via Bluetooth. Tech support can’t fix.
Pro: lights and horn still work. (Exception is the front brake switch no longer connected)
Pro: The Regen throttle works very well.
Pro: EBMX tech support is prompt
Con: EBMX tech support won’t provide me with a solution to any of my issues.
Pro: crash sensor no longer used. It’s a pro because you don’t want crash sensor on a dirt bike. If you do want it, forget it. X-9000 UB adapter wiring harness doesn’t support it.
Con: wiring harness could be improved. The Provided Ultra Bee adapter wire harness is too long and requires careful placement to squeeze excess wire between the battery and controller. However, the encoder wire is way too short and almost won’t fit. Battery fits tight against it with no stress relief. Doesn’t make sense why they made it the ultra bee adapter harness this way.
Con: it’s heavy. Beefy components might be a pro, but know it’s a chunk of weight.
***I need to point out that upon close examination of the Ultra Bee adapter harness, the only signals used are the throttle and the encoder. Nothing else is in the wiring harness. You will not be able to use the kickstand sensor or crash sensor even though those options are available on the App. Also, my x-9000 was having issues operating at the power settings for my configuration and I had to lower those parameters. After a couple weeks, the controller quit working. Maybe it was just bad luck. I was limiting the controller to 15kw. It seems it shouldn’t fail operating at less than half its capability on a stock battery and motor. Replaced with the stock controller and it works with no issues. I eventually got a Torp controller and it is working good so far (couple weeks).
Con: Installation will almost completely disable the instrument panel. The only thing still working is the battery indicator. No odometer, speedometer, mode, etc.
Con: Right side controls are completely removed. (Mode switch, ready switch, red kill switch) all gone.
Con: kickstand switch no longer used. EBMX wire harness doesn’t support it either.
Con: front brake switch no longer functional (the wire is completely removed as part of the installation. Your brake light won’t work using the front brake.
Con: Regen by brake switches non-functional.
Con: The provided handlebar display is 15mm wide! That’s it. Good luck reading it at arms length. The speed updates very slow. I could accelerate to 45 and the display still shows 15… and this thing is hard wired!
Con: there is no instructions on how to use the display. Nothing came with it and it’s not on their website.
Con: Reverse switch disabled (wiring doesn’t support it)
Con: traction control disabled (I don’t use, but I’m pointing it out)
Con: the Regen throttle gets in the way of you are using turn signals for street use.
Pro: App is great. Compared to Torp, in my opinion EBMX app is a better interface.
Con: App doesn’t work with all phones. EBMX doesn’t provide a list of phones that are compatible. I had to learn the hard way. My phone gets rejected “by the controller” when trying to connect via Bluetooth. Tech support can’t fix.
Pro: lights and horn still work. (Exception is the front brake switch no longer connected)
Pro: The Regen throttle works very well.
Pro: EBMX tech support is prompt
Con: EBMX tech support won’t provide me with a solution to any of my issues.
Pro: crash sensor no longer used. It’s a pro because you don’t want crash sensor on a dirt bike. If you do want it, forget it. X-9000 UB adapter wiring harness doesn’t support it.
Con: wiring harness could be improved. The Provided Ultra Bee adapter wire harness is too long and requires careful placement to squeeze excess wire between the battery and controller. However, the encoder wire is way too short and almost won’t fit. Battery fits tight against it with no stress relief. Doesn’t make sense why they made it the ultra bee adapter harness this way.
Con: it’s heavy. Beefy components might be a pro, but know it’s a chunk of weight.
***I need to point out that upon close examination of the Ultra Bee adapter harness, the only signals used are the throttle and the encoder. Nothing else is in the wiring harness. You will not be able to use the kickstand sensor or crash sensor even though those options are available on the App. Also, my x-9000 was having issues operating at the power settings for my configuration and I had to lower those parameters. After a couple weeks, the controller quit working. Maybe it was just bad luck. I was limiting the controller to 15kw. It seems it shouldn’t fail operating at less than half its capability on a stock battery and motor. Replaced with the stock controller and it works with no issues. I eventually got a Torp controller and it is working good so far (couple weeks).
