Interest poll: What kind of charger would get your money on the table?

[Aleksandar13]

The charger with cables weights 5,75kg and you only need an adapter like this for type 2 connector (EU AC charger).
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0D59LK9XV/
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CRK6J1L8/

First, I'm still thinking about a more portable charger because I want to get a second unit and you can really find 220v plugs in any home, restaurant.
But I think we need both with a DC module for fast charging the bike, which could weigh less than 1kg and be extremely compact.

Can you expand on the DC module, I am fairly new to electric cars and motorcycles but really interested to see if the community can come up with a solution. Thank you for posting the two links. I presume the box on your bike has the standard charger integrated in there and you just plug in when you get somewhere ?

 

[bennymic]

Can you expand on the DC module, I am fairly new to electric cars and motorcycles but really interested to see if the community can come up with a solution. Thank you for posting the two links. I presume the box on your bike has the standard charger integrated in there and you just plug in when you get somewhere ?

Eg tesla superchargers. They provide high voltage dc directly instead of ac. They can provide much more power and thus charge faster since the rectifying etc is done in the "charger". Basically it skips the on board charger or in our case the charger from the stand. Some solution to translate from how the bike talks to the stand charger to how the dc super chargers talk is needed. Possibly also firmware update on bike to permit faster charging.

 

[Theo]

For faster charging, I wonder whether the charging port, its high voltage cable and all the connections in between are rated to withstand more than 3.5 kW.

 

[bennymic]

For faster charging, I wonder whether the charging port, its high voltage cable and all the connections in between are rated to withstand more than 3.5 kW.

The ceo said it was possible in an interview. Even if not you could still charge at 3.3kw with just a smart adaptor, possibly incorporated into the bike.

 

[rs911]

Can you expand on the DC module, I am fairly new to electric cars and motorcycles but really interested to see if the community can come up with a solution. Thank you for posting the two links. I presume the box on your bike has the standard charger integrated in there and you just plug in when you get somewhere ?

Yes, bennymic said it all.

The ceo said it was possible in an interview. Even if not you could still charge at 3.3kw with just a smart adaptor, possibly incorporated into the bike.

Yes, but that was months ago, and if I was working at Stark with the knowledge they have, I'm pretty sure it would have been done by now.
But I understand that they can't work on everything at the same time if the staff isn't there.

 

[Theo]

The ceo said it was possible in an interview. Even if not you could still charge at 3.3kw with just a smart adaptor, possibly incorporated into the bike.

I rememeber that, too and I wasn't sure whether he meant just the cells of the battery are capable of being charged faster or if he meant that the whole bike can be recharged faster. In other words, since the bike is supposed to be recharged @3.5 kW or 3.3, I suspect that the charging port is not capable of withstanding more than that because they didn't see the need of using one that can.
Here is what is likely to be that interview: @24:40 he says that the bike can be recharged more than twice as fast and that they have used a slightly faster charger, so it sounds like everything is ready for a faster charger, but since he hasn't been specific, I would be cautious passing more current through that charging port.

There is a writing engraved in the charging port cap which reads "360V", so apparently the charger brings the current to that voltage from 230 V or 110 V. As far as I know, a higher voltage means that the cables, plug prongs etc. can be thinner because, given a certain power, the higher the voltage, the lower the current; when the app allowed us to set the charging current, the maximum was 10 A, while the charger used to get roughly 16 A from the socket in the wall: 16 A @ 230 V is roughly like 10 A @ 360 V. I'm neither a professional nor an expert but the prongs of the charging port still look pretty thin to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the option of a possible future faster charger came with a dedicated charging port.

 

[coloktm]

Hallo zusammen,
Ich habe eine "Topcase-Halterung" für meinen Stark gebaut, damit ich das Ladegerät auch auf längeren Touren dabeihaben kann. So kann ich unterwegs laden – an E-Bike-Stationen oder (mit Adapter) an Ladestationen für Elektrofahrzeuge.
Funktioniert super!

So what adapters are you using? I'm working on same project.

 

[varg_reiter]

Welche Adapter verwenden Sie? Ich arbeite am selben Projekt.

https://sonsofelectricity.de/products/typ2-adapter?variant=46552090083595&country=DE¤cy=EUR&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOor-6EODEd_NmXVwj4RiAQqq754f3mU22pU-rI_vlcqB89RyADNUvss

 

[rs911]

I've shared made in China adapters before, but I don't trust them and I got a brand new unit on a second hand site for half the price.
The only one that that comes with EV cars is made by Metron like the one @varg_reiter has.

[AC01] Type 2 to Type E / F (1 x 16A)

Connector AC01 for use on charging stations with Type 2 socket, to power devices with domestic plug (like E scooters, E motor bikes, E-quadricycles).

eauto.si

 

[coloktm]

https://sonsofelectricity.de/products/typ2-adapter?variant=46552090083595&country=DE¤cy=EUR&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOor-6EODEd_NmXVwj4RiAQqq754f3mU22pU-rI_vlcqB89RyADNUvss

I don't think that will work here in the US. It says won't work on stations with attached cords and all of our stations here have the permanently attached cords.

 

[markhamr]

i would like the bike to accept up to 5.5kw from a stand alone generator.