Owner's Review long term stark

[Beagle]

The like a 125 comment is just a bad joke,
f clowns.

Ken Roczen said that when he first rode it in 2022
He was not and never has been a Stark rider but he knows a bit about dirt bikes.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Ken Roczen said that when he first rode it in 2022
He was not and never has been a Stark rider but he knows a bit about dirt bikes.

Stark has been banned from FMX because they were too good. That's all you need to know.

 

[rafagas]

Tengo la SV enduro con algo más de 30 horas, es esquisita, algo pesado para levantarla cuando te caes, voy a cumplir 70 años, mi recorrido enduro tiene 100 kms y los dà, demoro entre 4 y 6 horas, uso 30hp con regeneracion 60.
Me gustarìa bajar el peso unos 20kgs , creo que la bateria actual me durara unos 10 años la mantengo siempre cargada entre 50 y 100%. Poseo ademas 2 surron, de las cuales me gusta la UB por su peso, y odio la SB por lo mismo.

 

[markhamr]

Give it up JD.

My 450 smokes my stark by a mile.
The clock does not lie unlike a lot of others.

I expect the changes to help improve the 1.2 stark but not perfect it.
I have not ridden one yet.
I have no plans too either because the company is well below par.
As for the 125 comment as i said f clowns the stark is 25.6 kgs 0r a massive 56.4383391 lb heavier than a 125
and the weight is spread over it like a elephant on roller skates

 

[Chaconne]

Give it up JD.

My 450 smokes my stark by a mile.
The clock does not lie unlike a lot of others.

I expect the changes to help improve the 1.2 stark but not perfect it.
I have not ridden one yet.
I have no plans too either because the company is well below par.
As for the 125 comment as i said f clowns the stark is 25.6 kgs 0r a massive 56.4383391 lb heavier than a 125
and the weight is spread over it like a elephant on roller skates

I hear your opinion on the bike as it is. It does not suit your needs.

But I think Stark did a pretty good job for its first effort. Think about the Yamaha yzf series, it took them 13 years to get decent 4Ts and it took from 2001-2019 to really get them good. I owned many yz250fs and 450fs from 2001-2013 and there was always something i.e. engine, frame, carbs(which suck), valves, fuel, starting... The estart efi yz250f wasn't available until 2019 almost 20 years for a really decent bullet proof bike.

A modern yzf450 is around 250lbs the Stark is around 260lbs agree it was heavier than initially advertised but not bad for a first effort. And yes, there was way too much over marketing. But that is business today in every industry. Today's suits want to emulate Musk with bullshit stories, we'd have colonies on Mars by now if the full-of-shits weren't full of shit.

Your 450 is not stock you have done mods IIRC so I would expect you to have better clock times with it.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Give it up JD.

My 450 smokes my stark by a mile.
The clock does not lie unlike a lot of others.

I expect the changes to help improve the 1.2 stark but not perfect it.
I have not ridden one yet.
I have no plans too either because the company is well below par.
As for the 125 comment as i said f clowns the stark is 25.6 kgs 0r a massive 56.4383391 lb heavier than a 125
and the weight is spread over it like a elephant on roller skates

Make us a video comparing the two?

 

[vic321]

Give it up JD.

My 450 smokes my stark by a mile.
The clock does not lie unlike a lot of others.

I expect the changes to help improve the 1.2 stark but not perfect it.
I have not ridden one yet.
I have no plans too either because the company is well below par.
As for the 125 comment as i said f clowns the stark is 25.6 kgs 0r a massive 56.4383391 lb heavier than a 125
and the weight is spread over it like a elephant on roller skates

Maybe yu should not drive the Stark with 10HP

 

[markhamr]

lol read the second line again vic321
I have tested this bike for over a year
it is heavy and slow.
settting is mx1 race mode.
I ride bikes , I don't drive them.

 

[markhamr]

My husqvarna fc 2023 450 is bog standard
and is more like 40 lbs lighter both in race ready trim
it carries its weight way better too.
I rode the stark on the mx2 setting today.
It felt pretty good i did miss the ease of lofting the front the mx1 setting gives.
I do wish people would stop making shit up.
Are we not hear to improve ev motorcycling.
No videos jd that's for internet jerks.
Anyone is welcome to come and ride here.

 

[vic321]

just tell us more about your phantasies:
2023 Husqvarna FC 450 Rockstar Edition 55.2 hp, 44Nm Torque@7100rpm, 108kg wet weigth
2025 Stark varg mx1.2 80hp, 978 Nm Torque@0rpm, 118kg charged.

If you are not able to put the torque into the ground, maybe you should use a little electronic for the stark that offers traction control.

 

[markhamr]

stop reading the brochure
bunch of f wits

 

[vic321]

Sure, facts dont matter. Opinion rulez.

 

[markhamr]

As i said vic actually read what i wrote
they are facts not bull sh8t lies
written in some brochure.

 

[vic321]

I could sue stark for false information on their brochure, you can say whatever you want.

 

[markhamr]

All good vic
that's right
the bike makes around 63hp and 70 ft of torque
my bike weighed 124 kgs not 118
i am here to try and improve the ev world
not just bag it for not being perfect.
the mx1 was not a good bike
but it was the only mx bike too,
and congratulations to stark for actually making one
and getting it out there.
I think the 1.2 should be a major improvement
and from there the future looks bright.
Pretty hard to sue me when all my quotes are fact,
Good luck finding a lawyer that would take that on.

 

[markhamr]

I can send you m qc/s email if anyone wants to start a war.

 

[Chaconne]

I can send you m qc/s email if anyone wants to start a war.

No war needed bro, not everyone's experience and use cases are the same. It is a good first effort. Even the big guys with years of experience struggle with first effort. Triumph and Ducati are having issues with their new MX bikes and, conversely, the last Zuke 450 I rode (2024) was heavy and felt heavy.

One of the main problems I think was the hyped up claims. The Varg is a continuation of the Red Shift and all the progress that has happened in the last 10 year IMHO. I debated the Alta vs my KTM 300 2T in 2019/2020 and ended up choosing the KTM, this time around the Stark was the winner because it ticked all the boxes for what I do equal to or better than the competitive gas bikes. But that's me you have different boxes to tick, understood all good.

 

[markhamr]

As they say,
Don't believe the hype.
I have done things on this bike too where I just go
how the f did it do that unbelievable, but the reliability problems
and weight have been a major frustration.
Over a 10 lap race the stark is around 1/3 of a lap behind, with me on it.
A lot of my posts contain sarcasm and humour too,
Australians can come across as blunt and a bit crass to others.
I dismissed the court action comment.
Can you imagine when I lay both bikes on there side in the courthouse carpark and tell the judge right now pick both of them up.
I did not mean slow as in power this thing has enough power to go to the moon
My focus was purely riding it on a outdoor mx track which i consider the hardest test of all.
Now I am looking forward to seeing a ev motorcycle win at hangtown or unadilla

 

[markhamr]

!@#$%^&*()_+
the bikes a slow piece of shit end of story

 

[markhamr]

Ha I will be racing the stark next season so.
At the moment I would say in mx2