More Honda Mugen pictures

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熱田 高輝 on Instagram: "明日の#jmx IA1トリプルヒートを見逃すな！日曜日の為にコース温存していたので、日曜日は最高のバトルが観れるはず。 会場でお会いしましょ！ おやすみなさーい♪ #jmx #全日本モトクロス選手権 #mx #emx #mfj"

364 likes, 9 comments - takateru711 on June 5, 2021: "明日の#jmx IA1トリプルヒートを見逃すな！日曜日の為にコース温存していたので、日曜日は最高のバトルが観れるはず。 会場でお会いしましょ！ おやすみなさーい♪ #jmx #全日本モトクロス選手権 #mx #emx #mfj".

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[snydes]

That’s the one I want to see happen.

 

[#76]

That’s the one I want to see happen.

<<<<< What he said!.

 

[Judaslefourbe]

That’s the one I want to see happen.

You mean getting 1 picture every 4 years of silence?

 

[snydes]

You mean getting 1 picture every 4 years of silence?

Now let’s be fair, it’s only been 3 years and there was more than one picture.

 

[Jon]

https://imgur.com/7drHiqr

 

[#76]

.....Funny how pics surface just when the big meeting in France is mentioned!.

 

[DonCox]

VitalMX had some more info on the Honda Mugen. I think they need to send A J Catanzaro over to compare and test.
Here's Cantanzaro on the ALTA

Here is a Japanese rider on the Mugen

 

[TCMB371]

Man, every announcement of a potentially new upcoming electric bike is just a reminder of how truly ahead of the times Alta Motors was.... this is the best a major company like Honda can come up with? To be fair this likely isn't Honda motor corp, rather Mugen who i believe is a small part of Honda.

 

[privateer703]

Is that a full size bike? It's hard to tell, the guy riding it is pretty small and he takes corners like me, slow.

 

[Mark911]

Embarrassing!

 

[enjoythesilenc]

It looks pretty tidy to me. Mechanical water pump on the right cover?

I wonder what the shutdown situation was.....

 

[bayodome]

Three years and such little development. At least one of the major OEMs is showing some interest in Emotos but, oh, what could've been. If Alta had stayed afloat, their success would've applied continuous pressure to the established manufacturers to step up their game, just like Tesla's effect on the auto industry. In that scenario, we'd be in the midst of an EMX/Emoto revolution. Instead we're here on an obscure forum dedicated to a discontinued motorcycle speculating about a machine that may never leave the prototype phase.

 

[Warren]

Bike looks good . But sorry Mugen/Honda bike looks weak .Wheels on ground test rider looks like he need rode a outdoor motocross track before. Maybe just maybe he told not to break it….. but wait he did break it , as push it off the track . Oh I’m sure in three four year’s they leave KTM Freeride power and maybe get that Watercooled tease up to Alta Redshift Power.

 

[#76]

Some more from the Tokyo Auto Salon. Credit to @BeachMX for the Images and time.

 

[bayodome]

It's been quite a few years now of teasing this bike. Enough that the once red anodized Mugen case cover is beginning to fade and look a little sad. Just release the bike already, Honda! You'll sell a gazillion of them!

 

[Number Six]

Full sized dual radiators ?
There's no combustion ..
Do these controllers / motors / batteries run so hot that the same cooling capacity of an ICE bike is needed ?

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[TCMB371]

Full sized dual radiators ?
There's no combustion ..
Do these controllers / motors / batteries run so hot that the same cooling capacity of an ICE bike is needed ?

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With a fast rider on it, yes.

 

[Number Six]

With a fast rider on it, yes.

If that's the case, I'd wonder what Stark has figured out that Honda hasn't given the comparison of radiator sizes & locations.
Or did Honda just go with an existing configuration for their experiment & have more cooling than needed at the expense of weight & radiator vulnerability ?
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[happyinmotion]

I've got to disagree on this one.

Cooling loads on electric are very much lower because end-to-end efficiencies are so much higher. If a bike is putting down 35 kW at the wheel and it's electric at 85% overall then it needs to dump 6 kW of heat. If that bike is petrol at 25% then it needs to dump 105 kW of heat. Hence radiators are always going to be bigger.

(Ok, petrol bikes also dump heat directly off the engine & through exhaust gases but even if that's half the heat loss, then radiators are always going to be bigger.)