Someone here, who got the ALTA EX or SM already streetlegal for Europe?

[wwmotors]

Someone here, who got the ALTA EX or SM already streetlegal for Europe? I will get a ALTA SM and a EX in a few weeks. May be the last ones! It would be helpful, to concentrate our forces and costs , to get the bike streetlegal. Would be a shame, if we would not use them on the streets! No noise, no emissions, 100% fun! Thanks for Your replies! Thanks WW

 

[Philip]

Lots of AOF members in Europe! Not sure how many of them own Altas though. But you can search their posts and contact them.

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[datadog]

If I recall correctly, all street legal vehicles in Europe need to have ABS. That was one of the hurdles Alta faced as it prepared to setup a dealer network there, along with RF emissions from the ACM.

 

[Philip]

Apparently, not for individual approval. Here is the old discussion:
Media Review - Visor Down - Alta'd Reality review

 

[Oded]

In Israel which is quite strict - the EX and SM are fully street legal. The MX and MXR can not be insured and are not street legal (they weren't even sold here).
Israel is not Europe, but quite close

 

[datadog]

Apparently, not for individual approval. Here is the old discussion:
Media Review - Visor Down - Alta'd Reality review

Judaslefourbe knows way more about it than me.

 

[Rashid510]

Israel requirements are very similar to USA DOT regulations, hence why Zero and Alta's were shippable in US format.

ABS is the big requirement for EU regulations. Technically there are some loopholes but that's all based on the EU country that you're registering the bike.

 

[wwmotors]

If I recall correctly, all street legal vehicles in Europe need to have ABS. That was one of the hurdles Alta faced as it prepared to setup a dealer network there, along with RF emissions from the ACM.

No not true. Only for mass production. Sportbikes with limited numbers can be driven in traffic without ABS. Look at KTMs Enduros. There is no ABS! Would be ridicoulos with ABS in a Endurorace!

 

[Monza]

Ageess on the forum has succeed to register his MX in Germany. He faces difficulties with RFM EC test but solved them.
There is no need of ABS for Individual Approval in EC countries.
@datadog and @Judaslefourbe, as i'll try to register my EXR 2019 in France, i'm very interested to know what are the parts which create RFM problems and technical solutions to solve it. Thank you.

 

[Oded]

Ageess on the forum has succeed to register his MX in Germany. He faces difficulties with RFM EC test but solved them.
There is no need of ABS for Individual Approval in EC countries.
@datadog and @Judaslefourbe, as i'll try to register my EXR 2019 in France, i'm very interested to know what are the parts which create RFM problems and technical solutions to solve it. Thank you.

The frech manufacturer "Electric Motion" sells its electric motorcycles in a street legal version in all Europe. They have no ABS.
I would look how they do it, if I were you.

 

[Monza]

@Oded , thanks but as written the ABS is Not a problem here because no need for it for Individual approvals (and every one who wants to register an Alta in Europe will have to go throught Individual approval process).

The real big problem in every EC country is the RF Emissions test, so my questions to @datadog and @Judaslefourbe in my precedent post .

 

[ageess]

As you see on my Avatar, all the vehicles which should be registered in Europe no difference in what country of the EU needs to pass the ECE R10 test that proves the that the bikes send out no elektromagnetic waves or built fields to interfere Brodcast , police communication , airplane navigation and so on , and itself should be immun against this waves and fields from outside. So its a big tes and needs 2 or 3 days in the lab and causes around 7500 Euros . If somebody interest to read the ECE R10 Rules goole and you find a pdf of about 300-400 pages. Not only Elektrik bikes needs it all Vehicles. So on the Alta there where a lot of probs to solve , more next week go out for the Weekend

 

[Philip]

Can a Faraday cage be built around whatever makes the electromagnetic noise? I've seen in spy movies it works really well!

 

[ageess]

theoreticly yes but in practice no space for that

 

[ageess]

My Alta passed the ECE R10 Test now and is ready for registration in Europe (was a 9500 Euro job with two days laboratory )

 

[Redwolf]

My Alta passed the ECE R10 Test now and is ready for registration in Europe (was a 9500 Euro job with two days laboratory )

Congratulations! Ready for adventure now.

 

[ElectricMoto]

My Alta passed the ECE R10 Test now and is ready for registration in Europe (was a 9500 Euro job with two days laboratory )

Hi , I'm the guy from Sweden that was interested in your former tuned Freeride, I'm as well interested in buying a EXR do you think I can buy a copy of the ECE R10 test if I'm going to import a Alta ?

 

[Reckoning]

EU regs provide for one-off registrations. Not requirement for ABS on ALTA as the continuous power rating is A1 125cc

 

[ElectricMoto]

EU regs provide for one-off registrations. Not requirement for ABS on ALTA as the continuous power rating is A1 125cc

Hi Reckoning, I think AGEESS is a smart and thorough European guy and if he did the ECE R10 test it's needed. the only reason I can think of is maybe that as a Racer he cannot use the low power A1 Registration.

 

[ageess]

No way out of the ECE R10 Test for germany , all motor driven vehicles need it for registration also the A1 class , (the Freeride E was tested in the same lab before and this one has the A1 in germany ) another point , if you try to change the 20kw in the title you need a whole new emmision proof and § 21 full inspection with all specs of battery ECE RG 100 , frame stiffness, payload of the warp wheels and so on , this will be an extra 10000$ . So the easiest way is to keep the 20kw and pass the ECE R10 Test this test includes a prove of the components and a security check of battery building a Datasheet and so on and after this ist normally on day testing 8 h in the lab if everthing goes well. If not 4h modification test. First the finished underwritten Test (with only one existing Akkreditation No.) is send to the KBA (DMV in Germany) and the TÜV how makes the § 21 so they can be sure of no manipulation in between . Now i am waiting for the original test papers and i can buy (around 1000$) a licence to use this test on other bikes ( includes Vin No.) with a compliance paper. Thats the way it works . (My registration ist allready finished and plate is on )