Stark Varg SM

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The video shows up for me (USA) on the Stark YT page.
But the Stark page still says "coming soon."
It's now dropped here, 2 minutes ago(Spain).

The websites updated just now.

€13990. Same as the EX here.

Has a seat option now. Although just "Grip" options (and a mark up).
 
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rs911

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Finally a new charger, let's hope it will be on sale before 5 December.
Rear tyre in 140mm (same size as on a 50cc 2T I had 20 years ago), where I put a 160mm on mine.
 

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Deliveries starting December 6th for France.
124 kg, Pirelli Diablo IV, sweet radial monobloc Brembo front brake caliper, that's nice.

The portable 3,3 kW charger is a nice touch. Still a bit odd to not have it onboard but I guess most people can live with that, it looks really small. It's probably the same hardware inside?

This portable charger could be a game changer for the EX as well if it ever comes as an option when you buy the bike (if you could choose between stand or portable charger, would be a no-brainer).
 
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OpaTsupa

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So the SM comes with only the "backpack" charger and not with the boat anchor of earlier models? I don't see an option to choose between them on the website.

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It's remarkably small.

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My guess is 900eur/$ in after sale.
SM parts page is up, but all the SM parts are missing.

They must be eating the cost penalty of all the SM parts to offer it for the same price as the EX.

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From Facebook:
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They weren't kidding when they said they were developing a charger small enough to fit in a backpack, great surprise is it's as powerful as the stand charger!


2 kg, 25*15*6 cm, great job
 

OpaTsupa

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They weren't kidding when they said they were developing a charger small enough to fit in a backpack, great surprise is it's as powerful as the stand charger!


2 kg, 25*15*6 cm, great job
There can't be any significant cooling in that thing. Will you be able to handle it after 2h on 3.3kW charging? It will be toasty.
 

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Charger might even fit in my Tankrucksack, I've just taken measurements; internal length is ~3cm more, width is 7cm more; height is plenty more.

It's called PRO Enduro WP, and it just fits my Zero FXE (shouldn't be any bigger).
Might as well work without Tankrucksack, but with two latching straps laced under the Stark seat when the fairing is off

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So a group of Varg riders (be it SM or EX) are coming into this small town in rural Croatia for lunch and a quick charge - after they plugged in their portable chargers set at full 3.3kw it took almost 3 days to restore power in the region :cool:

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Beagle

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So a group of Varg riders (be it SM or EX) are coming into this small town in rural Croatia for lunch and a quick charge - after they plugged in their portable chargers set at full 3.3kw it took almost 3 days to restore power in the region :cool:

Michael
Lol but you know there really are people who think that!
Charging your Varg is not using much more electricity than using your electrical oven or cloth dryer.
 

drehwurm68

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Well, that was not all meant sarcastic. A Varg charging at +3kW puts quite a load on a properly configured 220V wall plug with a 16A fuse like it is common in Europe; it will not take two chargers at full power on the same fuse. Now imagine some small restaurant in a rural place with a probably already questionable electrical wiring, a group of Varg riders in desperate need of a charge begging for access to a power outlet - how much of charge can each bike get in an hour or two? One Varg is fine most likely not being able to draw more than 1 to 2kW if there are other things on the same fuse. Two Vargs is already pushing ones luck. I guess to seriously charge more than one Varg you need a EV charging station to make sense.

Michael
 

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Got to limit the charge power when you are in that airbnb with the socket in the underground garage. Same circuit has the owner's washing machine on that consumes 2.2kW when it heats the water.

On the plus side, with the Type2 to 3xSchuko adapter, you can charge three Vargs at the same 11kW charging station in parallel
 

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Well, that was not all meant sarcastic. A Varg charging at +3kW puts quite a load on a properly configured 220V wall plug with a 16A fuse like it is common in Europe; it will not take two chargers at full power on the same fuse. Now imagine some small restaurant in a rural place with a probably already questionable electrical wiring, a group of Varg riders in desperate need of a charge begging for access to a power outlet - how much of charge can each bike get in an hour or two? One Varg is fine most likely not being able to draw more than 1 to 2kW if there are other things on the same fuse. Two Vargs is already pushing ones luck. I guess to seriously charge more than one Varg you need a EV charging station to make sense.

Michael
You're right that for housing, typical installation would have difficulty providing enough for charging 2 or 3 Vargs at full charge.
Most people use slow charging at home but now I see why your example of a restaurant "pit stop" makes sense indeed. You'd trip the fuse and the restaurant would ask you to unplug and maybe find another place to eat 😂
Compatibility with public AC EV chargers is a big plus, if you ride in a group of Vargs better plan your trip carefully.
 

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It's there:


The left axle holder of the fork, that you can see from 9:00, looks pretty special. It doesn't look like there is any pinch bolt or that it's split in any way. It looks like the pinch bolts are only on the other side, that you can see @8:50. I'd like to see more of it.
 

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The tiny portable 3 kW charger is a great surprise, the other technical aspects I'm curious about is overheating.
We will see if they managed to limit or avoid thermal limit by software, hardware or a combination of both because street riding will certainly increase the load and the heat.
 
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