Varg production numbers / VIN

[Bosch]

UDUEX1AE4SA000437 Expected delivery still 17th Feb
Line Status - Not Started
Purchased direct (no dealer)
UK
Deposit 10th Dec, Pain in full 19th Dec

 

[DaveAusNor]

I'm excited for you mate. Less than 3 weeks away now. Let me know what sort of paperwork they send with it, if Stark helps at all with the registration process or anything. Wonder if they will send paper manuals (unlikely) or if they will just update their website to include EX specifics there.

 

[EX_Stark]

Got my Vin over the weekend, still expecting early March delivery. Not firm production date yet. No idea if tariffs will slow things now either

 

[EX_Stark]

Good news & bad news.
Good news is I was notified my bike is in production, bad news is delivery date pushed back 3 weeks

 

[Bosch]

I got notification that my bike is in production as well.
My Estimated Delivery Date got pushed back from 17th Feb to 4th April.

 

[Beagle]

I got notification that my bike is in production as well.
My Estimated Delivery Date got pushed back from 17th Feb to 4th April.

In production now but delivered in the UK in 2 months? That seems an awful lot. Unless they're waiting on some parts maybe?

 

[AL_V]

In production now but delivered in the UK in 2 months? That seems an awful lot. Unless they're waiting on some parts maybe?

Agreed! "In production" evidently does NOT mean that they have started to assemble it.
According to recent reports, Stark Future is currently producing around 69 motorcycles per day.

 

[Beagle]

According to recent reports, Stark Future is currently producing around 69 motorcycles per day.

Interesting, I think they averaged about 700/month in 2024, that would be doubled. Do you have a link for that?

 

[AL_V]

Interesting, I think they averaged about 700/month in 2024, that would be doubled. Do you have a link for that?

I just quoted the google search results for "how many motorcycles does stark future produce per day" granted, this may be inaccurate.

Google Search

 

[Beagle]

I just quoted the google search results for "how many motorcycles does stark future produce per day" granted, this may be inaccurate.

Google Search

Ah ok thanks, that's from 1 year ago. I think they had this production capacity, but that doesn't mean they were making as much on average. As far as I can tell, they went from about VIN 3000 to VIN 10000 in 2024 so that would average to 600-700 bikes made per month.

I have no doubt now that this capacity has increased, especially with the incoming launch of the EX, and other new models coming.

 

[Theo]

Here @15:38 there is some updated information about how long it takes them to build a bike and about the frequency of completions of new bikes:

Building a Varg takes roughly 1 hour.
The speed of their production line is: a new bike every 10 minutes.

In production now but delivered in the UK in 2 months? That seems an awful lot. Unless they're waiting on some parts maybe?

I guess that the production starts when the frame with the VIN is created, but that frame will be put in a queue with other frames to receive the components.

 

[DaveAusNor]

I also got an email last night saying my bike has entered production. They actually moved my expected delivery date up to mid march. It was early Feb when I ordered, got pushed back to early april when I paid in full, and now had landed in the middle of those dates. Still no VIN yet though.

 

[electricsheep]

I got my production notice the other day. Had VIN for the past 3 weeks. Delivery date got pushed by about 2 weeks to end of March.

 

[DaveAusNor]

I have a feeling that those with VIN's might have already had their bike completed and Stark are just building and stockpiling bikes to send as many out at once. Or there is a design or supply chain issue for minor details of the bike that's forcing them to wait before shipment. I cant imagine that they haven't already built thousands of bikes since announcing its release. most likely already had a good amount of stock on hand before the announcement for their own riders and testing.

 

[AL_V]

I have a feeling that those with VIN's might have already had their bike completed and Stark are just building and stockpiling bikes to send as many out at once. Or there is a design or supply chain issue for minor details of the bike that's forcing them to wait before shipment. I cant imagine that they haven't already built thousands of bikes since announcing its release. most likely already had a good amount of stock on hand before the announcement for their own riders and testing.

No, companies do NOT like a lot of expensive inventory. They want their parts/components delivered to them "just in time," for assembly, and then they will ship finished bikes as soon as they have a container full for each specific destination.
I am sure they are not sitting on thousands of completed bikes, don't forget about all the tire/mousse suspension and accessory options.

 

[Beagle]

Here @15:38 there is some updated information about how long it takes them to build a bike and about the frequency of completions of new bikes:

Building a Varg takes roughly 1 hour.
The speed of their production line is: a new bike every 10 minutes.

I guess that the production starts when the frame with the VIN is created, but that frame will be put in a queue with other frames to receive the components.

Thanks for the vid.

300 workers, 150 on the office side including 85 dedicated to R&D.

As you said 1h to build a bike, new bike every 10 min, so in one 8h shift that would be 42 bikes completed, about 1000 bikes a month for one shift, one line, 5 days a week. No idea how many shifts or production lines they have, a capacity of 1000 bikes a month sounds about right (although they did mention a daily production record of 69 bikes back in November 2023 so who knows). Anton says they plan to double production soon, anyway they'll need to if they expand their lineup.

 

[DaveAusNor]

No, companies do NOT like a lot of expensive inventory. They want their parts/components delivered to them "just in time," for assembly, and then they will ship finished bikes as soon as they have a container full for each specific destination.
I am sure they are not sitting on thousands of completed bikes, don't forget about all the tire/mousse suspension and accessory options.

But this is inventory paid in full already. They are not losing sales by not shipping it.

 

[markanddona]

My delivery got pushed out from 3/2 to 4/2.

 

[AL_V]

But this is inventory paid in full already. They are not losing sales by not shipping it.

Not sure how many bikes are already paid in full, do you have some info on that?
If they have a container full for a specific destination, probably about 40 bikes, they will ship it.
What do you think they gain by NOT shipping?

 

[Zraaap]

I posted on another thread but looks like this might be a more appropriate spot.

I also got an email yesterday saying my ex had entered production (despite an estimated Feb 18th production start date). But that my estimated delivery date has shifted from March 10th to April 10th.

On my Stark account it doesn't show that the bike has entered production nor has a VIN been assigned. I paid for my bike in full on Jan 18th.