Well, the obvious answer is Stark I guessWho’s paying the monthly bill for these double SIM cards lolol?!
At least I'm not getting any bills.
Well, the obvious answer is Stark I guessWho’s paying the monthly bill for these double SIM cards lolol?!
On their website they actually state the first month of premium service is free, then we have to pay for it. But I have no idea where I’d process the subscription on the app which they state on their web page lol. And if I choose to use a different provider do I need to pull the VCU to put in the new SIM?Well, the obvious answer is Stark I guess
At least I'm not getting any bills.
I guess thay are talking about specific functions in the app. Not the connection itself. Basic functions in the app will be free.On their website they actually state the first month of premium service is free, then we have to pay for it. But I have no idea where I’d process the subscription on the app which they state on their web page lol. And if I choose to use a different provider do I need to pull the VCU to put in the new SIM?
Right, and with data logging which does not have a direct feed will buffer or cache large logging depending on the policy. Which will consume resources and create more overhead in communication. I still believe there is only one SIM card, but I won’t know until I open up the VCU.So... I'm guessing this motorcycle will likely spend every waking (& 'sleeping'?) second seeking out every cell tower/hotspot/home network/wardriver within range, no doubt generating/storing? plenty of metadata/error codes/spurious BS in the process. Surely this is of great benefit to someone, I doubt it's me though.
I am guessing, without active SIM cards, the bike would still be connected if the phone is connected to your home Wi-Fi network.
Having written the code for this it is really amusing reading this thread. Let's just say most of the guesses are quite poor and some a bit paranoid. Oh well, to be expected.
First. The phone has nothing to do with itPlease, enlighten us! (no sarcasm, just a very real need-to-know). My concern is simple: can any Varg drive functions (on/off etc.) be controlled wirelessly? On my 3 other electric bikes they can not.
Glad you are having fun! Could you perhaps share with us the Stark Varg anti-theft strategy in a way that attracts buyers and detracts thiefs?Having written the code for this it is really amusing reading this thread. Let's just say most of the guesses are quite poor and some a bit paranoid. Oh well, to be expected.
My Varg phone comes with a data-only SIM card, so it looks like there is come connectivity. I don't know how the subscription is being paid for, but maybe I'll find out if it expires. Maybe it uses this data connection for updates and registration?I hope the measures are like Amazon, provide a police report and we send you a new bike lol. Then I have no issues with all of this and I can get off my soap box.
Not sure what “measures” they can do if the bike doesn’t have a direct signal to the internet. The phone would have to be attached to the bike with an active SIM to be able to push or pull any data.
In the meantime, I took the whole body off and wedged an AirTag in the cushion of the seat. There is a large enough opening where the body locks on the pegs to the frame. Now I can sleep a little better at night if and when I go on vacation.
FWIW, in no way am I trying to bash Stark Future, I just want to make it better. An owner should be able to park his bike at the track, walk away for food or bio and walk back knowing his property hasn’t been tampered with.
I was told that some sort of disable/ant-theft feature is in the works. Is this true?Having written the code for this it is really amusing reading this thread. Let's just say most of the guesses are quite poor and some a bit paranoid. Oh well, to be expected.
I’d like to know how the bike operates without sim in VCU or if it can be removed?As an experiment, has anyone tried shielding the VCU / internal SIM card? Copper foil or even plain old aluminum foil should significantly reduce 4G/5G signal levels if properly installed.
I’m not so easily accepting of stuff like that….also not sure what any of this means….a 2 stroke has more than 1 hp. As does an alta. How you have to choose between a horse or every breath being monitored with no middle Ground makes no sense. There were no years between 1873 and 2024…? Not sure I understand your logic….seems more like a coping mechanism to down play anyone concerned with where this could take us.You'll have to ask Elon Musk. It even has cameras built in, the GPS alone is boring. But there are people who buy it without knowing it. I don't know why.
It was a joke. We can't change it, and we're all becoming a bit more transparent. That's not a problem for me. That's the price for the many other advantages in life compared to 1873. Just one horsepower is boring.
I can tell you this @Swank171 everything I have opened so far from Stark, has been poured with a liquid silicone or rubber material which I am sure they call their “water proof” rating. But to be honest it’s just a way to prevent people from reverse engineering their hardware. I could put these items in an oven and slowly melt the material but it is a long process and could weaken solder points. It’s not easy, and I am going to guess the VCU has something very similar to this.I’m not so easily accepting of stuff like that….also not sure what any of this means….a 2 stroke has more than 1 hp. As does an alta. How you have to choose between a horse or every breath being monitored with no middle Ground makes no sense. There were no years between 1873 and 2024…? Not sure I understand your logic….seems more like a coping mechanism to down play anyone concerned with where this could take us.
I was asking if anyone has opened the VCU up and experimented with bike operation outside of 4g connection.
Thanks for the “just lay down and take it…its easier that way…”speech hahah I feel a lot stronger now
When you start having days you aren’t allowed to drive so your electric car is shut down or your dirt bike won’t work unless in “designated area” you’ll prob still have some funny jokes!
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