Stark Future next models

TheJ0rma

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Here they are still trying to sell them for 21k€(Stark EX is 14k€ here). I have never seen one on the road other than the test drive units. Pretty expensive adv bike with 115 km range just makes 0 sense.
 

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I was talking to my trusted friend at the MOT, and he told me that the motorcycle must have all four hazard lights, otherwise it won't pass. This is interesting because right now it's not possible. Stark will have to find a way to implement this somehow, either on the keypad, perhaps by pressing the power button three times, or by installing an additional button on the handlebar, like the one required in the United States to turn off the engine. It would also be a good idea to put it on the dashboard of the Arkenstone, so that an icon appears and you can press it quickly with just one click. There's plenty of space left on the dashboard; it's just a matter of configuring a fictitious button in the software so that it can be pressed quickly in an emergency.

I know there are still 4 years left before any of us have to pass the MOT, but I'm curious to know how Stark is going to implement this modification.
 

TheJ0rma

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I was talking to my trusted friend at the MOT, and he told me that the motorcycle must have all four hazard lights, otherwise it won't pass. This is interesting because right now it's not possible. Stark will have to find a way to implement this somehow, either on the keypad, perhaps by pressing the power button three times, or by installing an additional button on the handlebar, like the one required in the United States to turn off the engine. It would also be a good idea to put it on the dashboard of the Arkenstone, so that an icon appears and you can press it quickly with just one click. There's plenty of space left on the dashboard; it's just a matter of configuring a fictitious button in the software so that it can be pressed quickly in an emergency.

I know there are still 4 years left before any of us have to pass the MOT, but I'm curious to know how Stark is going to implement this modification.
How are KTM bikes passing MOT? None of them have hazards
Edit. Apparently Adventures do, but Dukes, 690s and enduros don't
 
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Lost

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I was talking to my trusted friend at the MOT, and he told me that the motorcycle must have all four hazard lights, otherwise it won't pass. This is interesting because right now it's not possible. Stark will have to find a way to implement this somehow, either on the keypad, perhaps by pressing the power button three times, or by installing an additional button on the handlebar, like the one required in the United States to turn off the engine. It would also be a good idea to put it on the dashboard of the Arkenstone, so that an icon appears and you can press it quickly with just one click. There's plenty of space left on the dashboard; it's just a matter of configuring a fictitious button in the software so that it can be pressed quickly in an emergency.

I know there are still 4 years left before any of us have to pass the MOT, but I'm curious to know how Stark is going to implement this modification.
I think your friend is confused.

Not one of my 4 bikes have hazards.
 

OpaTsupa

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We saw 17' wheels, shorter suspension, bigger front rotor, 4 piston caliper up front. I think that will be about it.

If they can add something extra (I don't really know what SM riders want) then they can induce MX/EX street riders to sell and get the new SM.
That would automatically double the presence of Vargs in urban areas and act as free advertising.

I expect they must do something about power consumption and heating for full throttle at 80hp or there will be many disappointed hooligans.
 

Erwin P

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Power consumption is pretty much what it gets.
Heating mostly a problem at SM racing. On the street it's really hard to get the amount of heat in there that you can on a karting/SM track.
 

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What could SM riders (any street riders) want as extra compared to MX and EX?

2 words: onboard charger.

I don't know if there are any full size electric street motorcycle without an onboard charger, it simply does not make any sense to not include this for street riding.

(and yes, overheating is at worst for SM compared to off-road, high loads and typically longer bursts, so we'll see if they can manage that)
 

Erwin P

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What could SM riders (any street riders) want as extra compared to MX and EX?

2 words: onboard charger.

I don't know if there are any full size electric street motorcycle without an onboard charger, it simply does not make any sense to not include this for street riding.

(and yes, overheating is at worst for SM compared to off-road, high loads and typically longer bursts, so we'll see if they can manage that)
Yeah altough i don't think they will get it. As is the bike is pretty narrow and leaves little room for add-ons. Would be nice though!
 

Karinshi

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sadly it wont have an on board charger so... city street riding with some strong burst will be possible, and commutes to here and there, but range will be very limited, SM hooligangs will need to go home to recharge while their 701s and 690smc friends still have half a tank, sad but true, range technology isnt there at the moment

it seems to have a better front brake, not only the rotor but the master cylinder, it has a fluid reservoir, i dont know if it is a brembo model or maybe it can be an Accossato 16x16 because i see the long black lever... they need to improve the rear brake, because its very bad, it looks the same as the EX

good thing is that we will have SM parts for our EX
 
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sadly it wont have an on board charger so... city street riding with some strong burst will be possible, and commutes to here and there, but range will be very limited, SM hooligangs will need to go home to recharge while their 701s and 690smc friends still have half a tank, sad but true, range technology isnt there at the moment

it seems to have a better front brake, not only the rotor but the master cylinder, it has a fluid reservoir, i dont know if it is a brembo model or maybe it can be an Accossato 16x16 because i see the long black lever... they need to improve the rear brake front because its very bad, it looks the same as the EX

good thing is that we will have SM parts for our EX
I may be the only one that doesn't have a problem with the LHRB, to the point I had to dial it back as I was locking up the back under normal braking...

Admittedly I am left handed.

For those who aren't big fans though, have any of you changed rear pads for something more aggressive?
 

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My friends rear brake and mine both are equaly bad, you have to press a LOT to block the wheel, it almost has no feeling, we went to a near KTM workshop and they say thats not normal, their KTM models were braking a lot better and has the same master cylinder and caliper... they bleed my friends varg and nothing change (oil was very dark, almost black, they were amazed) used disc and pads cleaner and it didn't work either. It seems the pump doesn't have enough pressure... I'm looking for rear brake models but I can only find the Accossato 16x16, but I don't know if it's compatible with the Brembo caliper.

A NIGHTMARE
 

Karinshi

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Maybe an adapter to 240mm? The rear 240 disc of a Beta does fit. However offcourse it's too big for the caliper.
i dont think the problem is the disc size, its a matter of pressure, it dont have the force to tight the pads to the disc, i try a 2025 350exc ktm with a 220mm and the same brakes on the shop and it brake perfectly...
its rare that both my friend and i have the same issue, VIN 1600 and 1602, bikes arrived at my house together in the same palet, maybe thats the issue, so close to production equals same problems
 
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