Stark Future next models

[Karinshi]

So the SM is real now... the new charger is awesome, and it is compatible with the EX!

 

[Karinshi]

i dont understand why it is more heavy even with smaller wheels, same bike... the front disc is 320mm but it dont think it will weight that much

 

[Beagle]

i dont understand why it is more heavy even with smaller wheels, same bike... the front disc is 320mm but it dont think it will weight that much

Aren't radial street tires heavier? And they're not of the same dimensions. 17" street wheels may be heavier? Beefed up calipers, beefed up triple clamp, could be heavier forks and shock maybe?

 

[Erwin P]

17' wheels are always way heavier.
Way wider rims, and the flat part of the rims have to be way thicker because flat is weaker than bends. Tyres are also much wider and thicker.

My 17' SM set is multiple kg's heavier than my MX/Enduro sets.

 

[Karinshi]

oh nice explanation guys... but it shouldnt be a problem for Supermoto... husq 701 and ktm 690 are 155kg bikes with 70hp... the varg sm is a beast

The smaller charger is a game changer, im going to buy it when available... phone holder is thinner and more minimalistic, maybe compatible with EX too...
Gearing is 14/47 with 154kmh top speed. Suspension travel is a little big in my opinion, they didnt change de 303mm rear and just cut the front from 303 to 290mm... i think the ktm 690 has 260mm front, anyway...

overall Stark is going in a good direction and this is just the beggining

 

[Erwin P]

On track i've seen that, even with me as a beginner, it's bloody fast around the curves. Probably faster than any other SM, at the very least smoother.
And don't forget. Those other bikes face the same weight penalty for the SM setup.

 

[fe501tired]

The dust moto Hightail is the bike it's 220 pounds 42 hp.

 

[Lost]

The dust moto Hightail is the bike it's 220 pounds 42 hp.

Not really...
-Its a 3/4 size. Most adults look stupid riding them. I'd look like I'd borrowed my kids bike.
-42hp is everything it's got. I ride minimum 50 on the street and 45 woods
-Cannot be road legal.
-Completely unproven platform.
-An MX 1.0 is about the same price.

 

[Beagle]

Dust moto Hightail is lighter but battery is 40% smaller, wonder what the range would be street riding.

 

[fe501tired]

I agree 100 percent on the unproven platform I'm done waiting gunna pull trigger on the mx 1.2 if I can get a 18 rear tire which I heard I can't so the ex fully loaded.

 

[brongle]

oh nice explanation guys... but it shouldnt be a problem for Supermoto... husq 701 and ktm 690 are 155kg bikes with 70hp... the varg sm is a beast

The smaller charger is a game changer, im going to buy it when available... phone holder is thinner and more minimalistic, maybe compatible with EX too...
Gearing is 14/47 with 154kmh top speed. Suspension travel is a little big in my opinion, they didnt change de 303mm rear and just cut the front from 303 to 290mm... i think the ktm 690 has 260mm front, anyway...

overall Stark is going in a good direction and this is just the beggining

I don't think 14/47 with 17s would even get close to 154kmh on the current motor so I wonder how inflated that number is.

The dust moto Hightail is the bike it's 220 pounds 42 hp.

It's a cleaned up Surron. Unless companies want to develop actual battery technology a 22S pack is not going to compete in performance with a 100S.

 

[Erwin P]

I agree 100 percent on the unproven platform I'm done waiting gunna pull trigger on the mx 1.2 if I can get a 18 rear tire which I heard I can't so the ex fully loaded.

You could also just opt for an extra wheel. You can just order that and they're not even that expensive.