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At one point Stark said we could choose to have it delivered to a dealer, but I am pretty sure that option never became a reality. EDIT: Looks like now delivery through a dealer is becoming somewhat mandatory? Why would the dealer buy it from you (except at a big discount), when they are getting...

I think it will hold value until the dealers have stock on their showroom floors. That said, mine is also estimated delivery Dec 15, but the recent email from Stark hints at it being delayed. Most, if not all of the dealers have demos you can try out. The dealer here let a friend take one home...

Without the phone mounted, you won't know your battery percentage, that makes for some serious range anxiety!

I asked Stark support "Are the rider weight numbers the casual weight of the rider, or including helmet, boots, camelback, and all other riding gear?" And received this response: > Weight is casual without riding gear when considering our suspension setup.

Unfortunately not.

@fsfs, Stark shows 3 different chargers with different part numbers. Perhaps the actual plug is the only difference?

I asked the same question on Facebook, and got a few pictures including this one. It looks like as long as they are not too long to where the inboard handlebar clamp is, they are OK. (Of course)

You are wrong, Stark has stated long ago that it's all the same hardware

Yes, without a doubt, he wants you to watch the whole thing, and will probably remove any comments that might tell you the time of the pertinent results

Yes, you are correct, the ride times are wrong in post #1. In the video at 6:45, you can hear the mileage results: 33.8 miles "normal trail pace" 49.5 miles "slow trail pace" 18 miles MX On my Ultra bee, after changing to decent tires, 21" front, 54T sprocket, added handguards, steering...

It's not 18mph, it's 18 miles of range using 90% of the battery

Thanks again! Now back to waiting for my bike.....

Thank you sir, so the answer to my original question is that the charger will work in the US with L1, L2, and ground, and no neutral, correct? And is it possible for the Stark charger to function on 120V (20amps), even knowing it will be very slow?

As I stated in another thread, the 2 major issues I have with the Varg, are the wait, and the weight! (NOT in that order!)

Ok, for now, can you tell me if the Alta charger would work without a neutral?

Not saying it's OK, but the point is that it is not uncommon for new vehicle models to be delayed, even by established manufacturers. So for a completely new company, there are many more hurdles to overcome, and it shouldn't be surprising that there are unforeseen delays. That said, the...

I am not worried nor surprised about the latest delay. How long have folks been waiting for the Cybertruck, from an established company? I got an Ultra Bee, and it's cool, but you can't ride it "all day." Pretty sure the Varg will be the same in that respect, so it's never gonna be my "main bike."

Thanks, exactly what I was thinking…,

I understand the Stark charger is the same as the Alta charger (please correct me if that is not the case). A nema 6-50 receptacle used for a 240v welder has no neutral, only L1, L2, and ground. So, I can make an adapter 6-50p to L14-30r, which will have no neutral. Will this work with the Stark...

2 problems: the wait and the weight!