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I think its already happening. I just wish it was a flood that included OEM (KTM, Yamaha, Honda, etc) offerings that are full sized, modern frames & geometry, KYB like suspension, 200-240 lbs, 50+ miles range of mountain single track/full moto race, priced at $10k or less. Like the Stark was...

These guys are killing me. Just got this email. Why wouldn't they just allocate any new ramped up production bikes to the next customers in the original order line? Looks like they're trying to be helpful, but instead are shooting themselves in the foot. Again. Who's running things there?! I...

I realize that. But there are way more orders for the Varg then there are existing sales for Sur Ron's in the US I would wager. I'm not sure the OEM's and traditional motorcycle dealerships consider the Sur Ron's serious competition yet. Most of them don't sell them and seem oblivious to the...

I wonder if the Chinese bikes are "flying under the radar", or using some other loophole to ship direct to consumers? Perhaps the OEM's and dealers in the USA do not see the Chinese bikes as serious competition so they have not been raising a stink about them? But for the Varg, they see the...

I find it amazing, and completely baffling, that Stark apparently did not do their homework, or any homework, around what the regulations/laws are regarding selling and delivering customer bikes in the USA (and I assume other countries?) in probably their BIGGEST MARKET. And that they were...

It really is a bummer. Stark is losing a lot of good will from early adopters and the folks they need the most, experienced e-dirt bike enthusiasts.

This new E-MX e-dirt bike from Chinese mfr Kove looks interesting. Deliveries supposed to be happening early 2024. Kove debuts 2024 electric Motocross E-MX at Milan Motor Show | thepack.news | THE PACK - Electric motorcycle news "60 kW motor, delivering up to 260 Nm of torque, and runs on a...

Do it!

What a cluster. Really sorry you're dealing with this. I got the "your bike is ready for production, contact your local dealer to arrange payment" email too, am not making the payment, am not getting a Varg. Too frustrated about the whole mess. Emailed Stark demanding my deposit back, they said...

273 lbs.

Me too. Just for laughs I was going to talk to my brother in law the big shot lawyer at our Thanksgiving get together about whether or not I had any legal options for demanding my $100 back (bait and switch?, breach of contract?, etc). Silly I know, but I was curious what he would have to say...

Just the other day I saw a post on Facebook in one of my local riding FB groups asking if anyone had completed their Stark order through a local dealership here in WA State. The post was put up by the sales person in the local dealership (actually about an hour away from me) that is supposed to...

In the USA, I'm guessing that Stark is dealing with the same issue that Tesla dealt with, and has been battling since day 1, whether or not they can do direct to consumer sales/deliveries and by-pass the long established and legally entrenched local dealerships, or whether they would be forced...

Got mine yesterday too. Decided a while ago that I was cancelling my order when I learned the bike ballooned to 265 lbs. Then the whole sending bikes to dealer first bs, now all the USA bikes are going through dealers (not being delivered directly to our homes). Then teething problems with the...

Good job guys! Conditions look perfect. It's been very dry out there all summer and fall, looks like they got some moisture in the ground just in time, dust doesn't look like it was an issue.

Yes, of course people land harder on longer jumps all the time and all the modern bikes handle it just fine, usually. I was just relaying what I had read, from what seemed to be the original post of the damage. The question in my mind is, is this a design flaw, or a bad casting run, or...

I saw one of the original posts on FB or Insta I think, the guy flat landed a jump, over jumped it, I think it was 60', might have been less. People were discussing he weighed over 200 lbs + gear. I didn't save the post or I would link back to it. I personally won't be too concerned about this...

A 12v output would be a great feature, it would allow installing lighting kits, road legal lights (for locations where its possible to street license off road bikes), and of course cell phone chargers. I'm sure there's other uses for it too.

Sold: Sur Ron Ultra Bee

Hey guys, saw a post on another forum that said Skagit Powersports up in Burlington, WA just received two Stark Vargs and that they will be offering demo rides. Not sure exactly what that means, spinning around their parking lot, or out on some trails? I may give them a call and see, although...