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That handle sure doesn't help in perceived weight. I'm considering grind them round a bit.

That would be a DIY project as well. But i think it should be doable if you can trick the BMS. Stark has 4 strings of cells. Remove half of them should be doable. You'll be left with a bike that can't do full power anymore, but might cut it. With the overal construction a top swap will never...

Nice CNC is a good quality Chinese brand. Probably much cheaper to order them directly or at AliExpress.

Very true. However on the Beta's they all share the flywheel and the difference in crankshaft mass isn't that big either (although sure a factor), and should be partly compensated by the mass spinning faster. I think a lott of it has to do with the livelyness of a 125/200. Flying through the...

As i summarized above. That should proof quite hard to beat a purpose built E. Every component on an ICE is heavier or the same weight. And then you add the only heavy parts of an E. You can be lighter than purpose built. But at the cost of battery size. The Stark is quite the job to swap the...

How about that HVR MX2? 218lbs, just under full size, 41hp, 4,1kWh quick swap battery. Around now being delivered. I also wonder if there will be companies overhauling the Varg battery that could also remove 1/4 of cells. That would leave you at 5.4kWh wich is pretty much what the others offer...

I can see what you mean. But this is more of a technique issue then the bike being to heavy if i see those weights and reps. I remember the first few times i had the same experience, but after having spend a week in a Hard Enduro terrain that pretty much vanished. Dropping the bike dozens of...

You might wanna ask yourself that if you can't lift a 118kg, will you be able to lift a 110 one with a higher COG? And do not forget, the only big weight saving when using a YZ frame is using a smaller battery. The Varg as a platform is not that heavy. It's a really lightweight frame. Has the...

Well, we will know in about 3 months :ROFLMAO:

Makes sense for Germany. Very strickt rules on offroading, but quite a lott of ground. Not being heard is pretty much necessary. Also the A1 crowd wich incluides 16 year olds and car drivers with some MC lessons love them. In the Netherlands they sold just 63. They also make little sense here...

For comparison. We have 12 Zero ''dealers'' (of wich 8 only X-Line dealers and i know 3 of those don't have Zero's at the shop) in the Netherlands vs 5 for Stark. However all those 5 Stark dealers have Starks in the shop. That makes them roughly the same size in dealer pressence. For...

Well he does motocross, amongst many many many other things :ROFLMAO:

I don't know if the Teddy thing worked out though. Pastrana owning one and loving it also seems to be a big deal.

If you look at the target audience for Stark: MX/Enduro/SM riders. I'd be surprised if not at least 90% knows the bikes. Target audience for Zero/Energica: Streetriders, who mostly ask the question: What the hell is a Zero/Energica?

Energica was doing it though. It was greedy investors not following their promises that drove that to the ground. Don't forget Stark has many times more volume than Energica ever had. And one thing Stark does really well and Zero and Energica didn't. Marketing. Stark is in everyones face with...

No, but i'm afraid i'm misunderstood. Holding a low voltage - high amps battery doesn't do anything (living proof sits over here). Holding a high voltage will kill you. I mean to say that the max output amps of a battery mean nothing when talking dangers to a human. Battery's of low voltage...

But for the same reason you're Stark isn't loosing 59kW at standstill and it not being on fire there won't be such a current through the human body. Even a lower one for 90V. The Stark is killing, but 90V would need very specific conditions to do so. Soaked, rubbed of skin etc. If we are looking...

No the higher voltage up to some point is more killing. As soon as you get past a certain treshhold the amount of voltage hardly matters anymore until you get into arc flash territory. You seem to miss the point of the human body being a resistor. The current a battery can deliver is not perse...

Not entirely true. Sure it's the Amps that kill you, but the Voltage is the enabler. I (amps) = U (voltage)/R (ohm). A human with a dry skin has about 100K - 1000K ohm resistance. That makes for 90/100.000 = 0.0009 A dragging you well into the ''safe zone'' of your graph. Again not entirely...

This taken from their website is pretty clear about the ''core'' battery being the standard, otherwise there would have been a ''weight savings'' behind the ''core'' as well. Also them mentioning that being optional made me think about the 5.6 being standard. I just took the 7kg (15lbs, not 17)...