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I rarely thrown away old inner tubes. Usually they get cut into rubber bands.Local suspension guy turned me onto a cheap version of that: Cut a section of innertube and slip it over the grip and lever.
Have you noticed during corner entry the regen rear wheel input being somewhat inconsistent or doing something funny?
Interesting comment on variable regen depending on speed... I think this topic calls for a specific threadNot sure about my aggression level, but I have noticed the Alta regen is very different from Zero's. The regen on my Alta seems to get stronger the more the bike slows, almost like auto-braking. The Zero normal regen is just a linear drag effect (adjustable), and there's also adjustable braking-only regen activated by the brake-light switches.
IMO the Alta-type regen does a better job of simulating ICE engine braking, but coming from an adjustable-regen (30% of max) electric it really messes with my 'flow'. At some point I'll post a bike review with more detail now that I've got some time on the bike.
the inputs all the same - a interesting topic for the guys battling for the weekend wood for sure.... I would think the bike would be fully capable of bleeding off the excess energy to remain consistent feedback to the rider?If your battery is full, it can't regen as much as if the battery is capable of more storage. So engine break when battery is topped off will be much less then when your a couple laps into your moto. That's what I have noticed. I know you asked for aggressive rider, But that's the extent of my experience...Sorry though, I am not that aggressive of a rider.
A more aggressive rider won’t feel the regen because he or she would have the throttle open so the regen won’t be working.Question for some of the more aggressive riders - Have you noticed during corner entry the regen rear wheel input being somewhat inconsistent or doing something funny? Typically on an ICE bike engine braking is very predictable? I’ll need some more seat time...
A more aggressive rider won’t feel the regen
Based on your feeling, the Alta is providing a constant level of regen, not a constant rate of deceleration. The regen gets stronger as you slow because it takes less energy to slow down a slower moving object than a faster one. Since the amount of energy being recaptured by the bike stays the same, the bike will slow down quicker the slower you are going.Not sure about my aggression level, but I have noticed the Alta regen is very different from Zero's. The regen on my Alta seems to get stronger the more the bike slows, almost like auto-braking. The Zero normal regen is just a linear drag effect (adjustable), and there's also adjustable braking-only regen activated by the brake-light switches.
IMO the Alta-type regen does a better job of simulating ICE engine braking, but coming from an adjustable-regen (30% of max) electric it really messes with my 'flow'. At some point I'll post a bike review with more detail now that I've got some time on the bike.
Regen is tricky. As @Fod said, the regen energy has to go somewhere. If it can't go into the battery the bike won't regen. All EVs have this issue. Electric car manufacturers have looked at adding a big heat sink (literally a large resistive heater like a toaster) or actually using battery power to apply reverse power to the motor (I don't know the term, I'm not a EE) to simulate regen to make the feel the same. Still others stop charging short of 100% in order to give head room to provide regen even when the battery is "full." Alta is doing what Tesla does and make it up to the operator. If you charge to 100% you will not have regen until enough battery power is used to allow regen to happen.
Lots of things are possible, just a matter of writing the code...
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