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Update: I let the Dust web developer know it says 235lb at least three places on their site and no where did I see it say 220lb/100kg.
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Yes, saw that AI response posted earlier. I went back and forth with their AI bot three or four times and that is what initiated them informing their website developer.
But a typical website viewer will see the wrong weight (three times) and not think, "I should ask AI if that is correct". Ha. So it's in their best interest to correct the error(s).
Sloppy that they have only the incorrect weight all over their site since that is a key piece of data just like battery capacity, etc. Not like it's a typo in a single place. You'd think someone at the company would have noticed that by now, and corrected, if 100kg/220lb has been the known production weight for a while. They seem to pay attention to details in most things for such a simple thing to be incorrect. Ah well. Maybe my message will instigate their correcting it.
But a typical website viewer will see the wrong weight (three times) and not think, "I should ask AI if that is correct". Ha. So it's in their best interest to correct the error(s).
Sloppy that they have only the incorrect weight all over their site since that is a key piece of data just like battery capacity, etc. Not like it's a typo in a single place. You'd think someone at the company would have noticed that by now, and corrected, if 100kg/220lb has been the known production weight for a while. They seem to pay attention to details in most things for such a simple thing to be incorrect. Ah well. Maybe my message will instigate their correcting it.
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Since I had edited that in, I wasn’t sure if you saw it.
But yes, they should definitely correct it, because it would be make or break for me.
Hopefully, they’re not achieving that weight by using beach ball inner tubes!
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Whoa. I hadnt heard of donut. Gotta check it out.
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Verge Motorcycles had already designed their electric streetbikes using the Donut Lab hub motors, but they announced they are also now going to deliver with the Donut Lab solid state batteries. Will see how they work out in the real world, but some companies finally seem to be cracking the "solid state battery" nut. There are a few small products, that use solid state batteries, already available retail, but just now hitting powersports and can't some soon enough (once all the bugs are worked out and price is competitive....all of which Donut Lab says they have figured out. We'll see).
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A video from 3 months ago:
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The Bonnell 902 is the bike to be watching.
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Any real date on when these dust moto bikes will really be ready to be purchased? First it was summer of 25’. Then end of 25’. After that the latest I saw was Q1 26! It seems by the time these bikes come out they might of missed there window. With Yamaha showing up and Altis omega. And even talk Stark coming out with a smaller version. Not to mention Bonnell, etc.
i have no idea, but did anyone know anything about the Yamaha? i think it wont come out, like the KTM and Husqvarna. I dont think the mini Varg will be released for at least 3 years
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From what I’ve heard is Yami 2027. Or by end of this year. But like others could be pushed back.
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I need a bike that weighs 100 kg and has 15 kw of battery to be viable.
That's 10-15 kg battery for 15 kWh.
All you need is to wait for energy density to go from 300 Wh/kg to 1000 Wh/kg.
800 Wh/kg already exist in lab but mass commercialisation is still very far. Scalability, manufacturing cost and so on. And then of course dirt bikes would never be the main market for those so you'll wait a bit more.
China battery company Welion achieves 824 Wh/kg energy density in lab, targets 1000 Wh/kg
Chinese solid-state battery company Welion Tech achieves 824 Wh/kg energy density, eyes IPO.
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Do you plan on doing any riding by 2045?
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I know beagle
Racing will change too though as it has already.
Next it will be 3 lap races at your local supermarket car park.
The dirt bike era is nearly dead with track closures , the publics hate for ebikes
and the ban on social media for young people in this country.
Now my local club has no form of contact and looks like it will be closed down.
I plan on riding a lot the 450 takes 1 minute to recharge.
The stark is a good training aid but that's about all it is useful for.
Racing will change too though as it has already.
Next it will be 3 lap races at your local supermarket car park.
The dirt bike era is nearly dead with track closures , the publics hate for ebikes
and the ban on social media for young people in this country.
Now my local club has no form of contact and looks like it will be closed down.
I plan on riding a lot the 450 takes 1 minute to recharge.
The stark is a good training aid but that's about all it is useful for.
