Film production company interested in renting my Varg

[Karinshi]

This has caught me completely inexperienced. They're offering me €5,000 to rent it for 12 days, which seems pretty good, to be honest. Apparently, they don't intend to use it intensively; they won't be using it on a track or for enduro riding. They're very keen for it to appear in their film for some reason I don't know. It's also possible they're lying to me and will use it for other things.

The thing is, I'm obviously worried about it getting damaged. Does anyone have experience with how to arrange a rental agreement where everything is clearly stated in a contract? I'd like to include clauses stating that they are responsible for any damage and must pay for it. The bike can't be modified and must be returned in the same condition as when it was picked up, etc.

Do you think this is a good idea?

What things do you think I should keep in mind?

Thanks

 

[Beagle]

Odd to rent a bike 12 days for half its price. It would cost them much less to buy a brand new one and sell it after a couple of weeks

If you want to go with it, they should provide solid proof of insurance with all included damage, theft, damage to others/liability and so on. It has to be valid for professional use.

 

[Karinshi]

Its a very good offer; they're in a hurry, that's why they're offering so much, and also there are only 4 Vargs in my island and one of the owners already said no wich is the one who have my bike at the shop for the repair on the "incompetent Stark dealer"! incredible! Remember that my bike is in this thread about my situation. ( Solved - HELP Power jerking after Drivetrain replacement (GEN2) )

Oh! And they're looking for two bikes! One for next week and the other for later, though I don't know exactly when.
The good thing is my friend could offer them his for next week, and I could lend them mine for next time, and we'd split the money. We're waiting to talk to the manager tomorrow to see what the conditions are and what they're going to use it for.

I'll have to study the whole insurance issue and the legal bureaucracy

This is surreal...

 

[Jasperfield]

This outfit doesn't have any money, and you'd be crazy to lend them your bike. Tell 'em to get lost and hang onto your bike in good shape.

 

[Bodo]

If they were to feature a bike in a legit film, Stark Future would be all over it and even ship them to your island for free. Watch out, doesn't sound good.

 

[AL_V]

If they were to feature a bike in a legit film, Stark Future would be all over it and even ship them to your island for free. Watch out, doesn't sound good.

YES, I would ask them to explain why they haven't received support from Stark.

 

[Erwin P]

Good deal. Total new price of the bike up front. Everything above the 5K is deposit. No bike back then you just buy a new one

 

[Lost]

DM me the name of the company, I have family here who are in the industry. I can check them out.

I've also rented a couple of classic cars out for shoots.

If they are legit, what your requesting is perfectly reasonable.

Also state clearly that you need cleared funds, before use.

Also, also. Most people who rent out vehicles (mostly) stay with them for the shoot to avoid contract breaches.

 

[Karinshi]

Is a legit company from my island https://canarypicturesvehicles.com/

I've gathered more information. Thank you for all the support and opinions. Erwin idea is amazing, i didnt think about that

They want the bike for a shooting inside a Luxury Resort Hotel, It's a chase scene between motorcycles and Hummers they bought from the army, they're serious. They want the Varg to be red, they were thinking of wrapping mine. They're used to renting vehicles so they know how to do this things.

But in the end, I won't be able to rent it to them because they need it by Monday—typical production company rush. My bike is still in the shop, and there's no telling when it'll be fixed, so I've lost the opportunity.

They also told me I could be present on set without any problem and see how they handle it; I could even be the driver for some shots. It's a shame, really... €5,000 for 12 days was a great price; I still have 7,000 left on my loan, and I could have gotten rid of a good chunk of it.

Maybe they will count on me for another film

 

[Theo]

Since you've said that they also need a bike for later, it is possible that you will still have a chance.

First of all, I wouldn't take it for granted that you and this company can do it without having legal issues. Nowadays people are just used to produce media content involving products and also making money from the aforementioned products, eg. with reviews, without asking for permission to the manufacturer, but in theory I'm not sure that it's legit. Now, Stark usually is OK with people talking about them, they also write comments to videos about them, but in case of a movie it's something more important. What if in the motorcycle chase the hero rides a 2 stroke and outruns the villain, who rides the Varg? Stark would probably dislike that. That's why I would ask them for permission, reminding them that the bike won't be able to be used until it'll be fixed. Maybe they will just arrange something theirselves with the producer or maybe they'll be motivated to solve your problems sooner.

I'm not surprised that they don't want to buy a Varg, since then they would also need to sell it when it won't be needed anymore, so it's simpler to rent it.

Talking about the fact that the bike could be damaged, unless they do very serious damage you would be able to repair it with part of that money and still have a lot left.

There is still the possibility that it's a scam or that they could damage it too seriously.
A general method to decide whether it's worth it to take the risk is to appraise your bike and then calculate the ratio between those 5.000 € and the value of your bike. Then you could assess the likelhood that your bike gets stolen or destroyed and then you can compare these two values. For example:
you think that your bike, now that it's used and a little worn, is worth 11.000 €: 5.000/11.000 = 0.45, or 45%
you trust those people and think that there is only a 5% chance that they'll steal or destroy your bike
since 45%>5%, it's a risk that it's worth to be taken.
Just a general idea, you may have specific needs for which this doesn't hold good for you. It's similar to the way in which they teach you how to decide whether to buy a lottery ticket, at school. Comparing what you get and what you lose considering probabilities, too.

Also make sure that everything is done legally, that any taxes that should be paid are paid and that the payment is trackable: I don't know whether it's legal to pay 5.000 € cash where you live, but that would be a bad idea.

 

[Karinshi]

Since you've said that they also need a bike for later, it is possible that you will still have a chance.

First of all, I wouldn't take it for granted that you and this company can do it without having legal issues. Nowadays people are just used to produce media content involving products and also making money from the aforementioned products, eg. with reviews, without asking for permission to the manufacturer, but in theory I'm not sure that it's legit. Now, Stark usually is OK with people talking about them, they also write comments to videos about them, but in case of a movie it's something more important. What if in the motorcycle chase the hero rides a 2 stroke and outruns the villain, who rides the Varg? Stark would probably dislike that. That's why I would ask them for permission, reminding them that the bike won't be able to be used until it'll be fixed. Maybe they will just arrange something theirselves with the producer or maybe they'll be motivated to solve your problems sooner.

I'm not surprised that they don't want to buy a Varg, since then they would also need to sell it when it won't be needed anymore, so it's simpler to rent it.

Talking about the fact that the bike could be damaged, unless they do very serious damage you would be able to repair it with part of that money and still have a lot left.

There is still the possibility that it's a scam or that they could damage it too seriously.
A general method to decide whether it's worth it to take the risk is to appraise your bike and then calculate the ratio between those 5.000 € and the value of your bike. Then you could assess the likelhood that your bike gets stolen or destroyed and then you can compare these two values. For example:
you think that your bike, now that it's used and a little worn, is worth 11.000 €: 5.000/11.000 = 0.45, or 45%
you trust those people and think that there is only a 5% chance that they'll steal or destroy your bike
since 45%>5%, it's a risk that it's worth to be taken.
Just a general idea, you may have specific needs for which this doesn't hold good for you. It's similar to the way in which they teach you how to decide whether to buy a lottery ticket, at school. Comparing what you get and what you lose considering probabilities, too.

Also make sure that everything is done legally, that any taxes that should be paid are paid and that the payment is trackable: I don't know whether it's legal to pay 5.000 € cash where you live, but that would be a bad idea.

Thanks for the information.

There are a lot of things to consider and a lot of risks I don't really want to deal with right now, to be honest. Besides, there's no time to get proper advice and study it in depth. The payment issue is also complicated, and I can't get that money so easily; plus, after taxes, I'll only be left with about €4,000.

At first, it seemed like an easy and interesting opportunity, but there's nothing better than peace of mind.

I also don't want to keep contacting Stark about this because I've already been going back and forth with them for seven months about the problem with my bike, and I'm tired of it. I asked them four days ago if they could send the third throttle they're sending for the repair via express shipping, and I'd cover the payment, and they haven't even replied. A month wasted trying it piece by piece. I trust they will fix my bike, let just wait a little bit more. Good thing is now i have a completely new drivetrain, wiring harness, docking station and throttle, plus an extended warranty.

Anyway, time to enjoy life.

 

[Theo]

At first, it seemed like an easy and interesting opportunity, but there's nothing better than peace of mind.

Peace of mind is surely underestimated nowadays.

Anyway, time to enjoy life.

Never forget about that!