Power Modes: What do you use?

[OpaTsupa]

Share what Power Modes you use and in what scenarios or terrain type.
What have you find that makes you go fastest, or have precise control or wastes or saves power etc.

I'm trying to make sense of the Regen graph in Advanced Power Mode.
On default setting it is a flat line at 100 (somethings) throughout the range for every mode.
Does that mean full 100% regen like in the Standard Power Mode?
It doesn't reset if you draw something wacky.

I only like high regen for choppy downhills, but it comes on too hard when closing the throttle. How to set it up to come on more gently?
I just can't guess the RPM of the motor or how quickly it rises at this low speed.

Here's what I'm using so far. Very simple and linear while getting to know each other.

 

[kailua808]

It depends on where you are riding. Hard enduro single track I use two settings. One for hill climb sections and one for everything else. Make sure you have zero regen for any hill climbs. If not, even a slight release of the throttle will negatively impact your climb. Keep in mind that you don’t need 60hp. Lower hp is much better in the tech single track and you will be faster.

 

[Bernardo]

For SuMo driving is simply use the standard modes:
40 / 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 HP
Mostly 60HP. 70 is still OK. 80 is a bit freaky.

simultanosly i use different regen- values on each powermode which i use for downhill
0 / 20 / 30 / 40 / 60

 

[happyinmotion]

Like kailua808, I'm into less is more for hard enduro, especially when it's wet and slippery. More power just means that when the rear wheel breaks free it goes sideways faster.

So:
Mode 1 - 20 hp, 70% regen for steep downhills
Mode 2 - 20 hp, 0% regen for slippery climbs and very tight singletrack
Mode 3 - 33 hp, 0% regen for most singletrack
Mode 4 - 46 hp, 0% regen for beach
Mode 5 - 60 hp, 0% regen for drag races and dunes

 

[OpaTsupa]

Like kailua808, I'm into less is more for hard enduro, especially when it's wet and slippery. More power just means that when the rear wheel breaks free it goes sideways faster.

So:
Mode 1 - 20 hp, 70% regen for steep downhills
Mode 2 - 20 hp, 0% regen for slippery climbs and very tight singletrack
Mode 3 - 33 hp, 0% regen for most singletrack
Mode 4 - 46 hp, 0% regen for beach
Mode 5 - 60 hp, 0% regen for drag races and dunes

More or less I agree.
Although, today I had a very difficult ride on steep (but nothing crazy) climb with loose rocks. There was no run up, and rear wheel wasn't gripping at all. I tried every mode and combination but nothing worked. I've never spun the rear wheel so much in my career. For reference, I can clear that climb on a Beta 300 in 1st gear, or 2nd on a good day, without drama.
It chewed up the tire.


For now, my opinion is that high Regen in the range 65-95 is only practical for very steep descents. It kills momentum like nothing else for every other type of riding.
Also, low power range of 20-30HP takes a lot of twisting of the throttle which on steep climbs is a problem with my dodgy wrist. Must find a happy medium for this.

P.S.
Disregard those Advanced Power graphs in the first post. For some reason they default at 100 regen, and that's just inpractical.
I'll see if I can squeeze something clever out of that Advanced Mode while the subscription lasts, but I doubt I'll continue it.

 

[kailua808]

More or less I agree.
Although, today I had a very difficult ride on steep (but nothing crazy) climb with loose rocks. There was no run up, and rear wheel wasn't gripping at all. I tried every mode and combination but nothing worked. I've never spun the rear wheel so much in my career. For reference, I can clear that climb on a Beta 300 in 1st gear, or 2nd on a good day, without drama.
It chewed up the tire.
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For now, my opinion is that high Regen in the range 65-95 is only practical for very steep descents. It kills momentum like nothing else for every other type of riding.
Also, low power range of 20-30HP takes a lot of twisting of the throttle which on steep climbs is a problem with my dodgy wrist. Must find a happy medium for this.

P.S.
Disregard those Advanced Power graphs in the first post. For some reason they default at 100 regen, and that's just inpractical.
I'll see if I can squeeze something clever out of that Advanced Mode while the subscription lasts, but I doubt I'll continue it.

I used the Advanced Mode and played around with the settings for a few months but didn’t come up with anything better than the Normal Modes that I set. I have since canceled the subscription. Enjoy your ride. These bikes are soo much fun.

 

[DaveAusNor]

Hi, of course all of these are subjective and personal preference, but i'll share my current maps.
1: 20HP 30 regen. My map for anyone trying the bike for the first time.
2. 30HP 40 regen. Slow MX map
3. 48 HP 50 regen. Faster MX map
4. 60 HP 0 regen. My standard SM map. Been using it on the MX track too at times when I don't want regen, but 60HP spins the tire a lot on the track if you're not really steady with the throttle.
5. 80 HP 0 regen. Fast SM map. For when I really wanna rip.

 

[Chadx]

I use my MX 1.1 for trial riding in the mountains. Forest service roads, 50" and gnarly single track. I've found I primarily use only two modes. 2 and 3 and often go five or more rides without using any of the other modes.

1. 20hp and Max regen. Use this for loading, or for long, continuous mountain descents when 70% regen isn't enough. Very ride specific and except for loading and unloading, I only use this once every few rides.

2. 28hp and 65% regen. Use this for all single track (faster flowing or slow, gnarly). About right amount of wrist movement for me to have great control and dial power up or down as I'm getting bounced around and using a lot of body movements. Enough oomph to lighten or lift the front tire but not so touchy I get thrown around if I make a mistake.

3. 38hp and 65% regen. Use this for 50" trails with a lot of whoops, banked or twisty turns, rocks, climbs, drops, etc. Also on casual group rides on forest service roads.

4. 50hp and 65% regen. Pop up to this maybe 5 minutes total on an average 3 or 4 hours ride. Only on wider, faster roads or spread out whoops.

5. 60hp and max regen. Use this only on wide flat trails or grass where there is enough traction and really only if I want to compare power with another rider. Have on max regen in this mode so I can flip to this if I'm closer to this than mode 1 and want max regen for long mountain downhills where 65% regen isn't enough. Also as a safety net if I, or someone, started to loop out on a high speed power wheelie with hopes front will come back down when rider lets off. Ha.

 

[OpaTsupa]

On the second run of my hill I had greater success with 60hp / 0 regen than with any other combination. Still way too much tire slipping for my taste.
Bike will climb anything, but technique is not the same like with the 2T. Left-Hand brake can be used as a clutch to an extent.
I'm also surprised that I have more control sitting down than standing. This would be impossible on a Beta 2T.

Here's an illustration of the terrain. [not my photo or location]



I tried taming the onset of Regen in the Advance Mode graph, but I detect nothing. When set high (60-90) it hits hard and immediately.
I would like it to come on more gradually.
Please share if you found a setting that does this.