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Are they old demo bikes?Stark dealer in Flagstaff AZ just sent me info saying they had some for sale -
Are they old demo bikes?Stark dealer in Flagstaff AZ just sent me info saying they had some for sale -
I agree 100%It really is a bummer. Stark is losing a lot of good will from early adopters and the folks they need the most, experienced e-dirt bike enthusiasts.
It has really soured me I admit. I was very defensive of Stark early on.The funny thing is I think the customers who bought and are locked in to the previous price are the e ones getting screwed because stark couldn’t care less if we take our orders since in their eyes they lose 1k$ a unit and that was the majority of the orders.
I’m so irritated. I ordered Dec 17th and don’t even have the energy to type out my experience here. It’s nothing special….just echoes the other experiences shared here and it’s a joke. Stark has zero compassion for the early investor. I’ll buy an alta or build an ultra bee
I wonder if the Chinese bikes are "flying under the radar", or using some other loophole to ship direct to consumers? Perhaps the OEM's and dealers in the USA do not see the Chinese bikes as serious competition so they have not been raising a stink about them? But for the Varg, they see the thousands of orders, the quality of the bike, the investments into the company, and are fearing the competition and the direct to consumer business model, and now they are doing everything they can to slow/stop Varg from doing business outside of the traditional dealership model in the USA?How do the Chinese bikes pass regulations and are able to be shipped door to door - but a quality bike like the Varg cant?
Also - California sucks.
There are way more surrons in the USA than Vargs.I wonder if the Chinese bikes are "flying under the radar", or using some other loophole to ship direct to consumers? Perhaps the OEM's and dealers in the USA do not see the Chinese bikes as serious competition so they have not been raising a stink about them? But for the Varg, they see the thousands of orders, the quality of the bike, the investments into the company, and are fearing the competition and the direct to consumer business model, and now they are doing everything they can to slow/stop Varg from doing business outside of the traditional dealership model in the USA?
Besides the Varg, if the USA dealers and the major m/c OEM's y are burying their heads in the sand about the Chinese bikes (e-bikes and ICE) like they did with the Japanese market cars and bikes in the 60's-70's, they better wake up or they are going to get spanked all over again by Chinese imported product.
I realize that. But there are way more orders for the Varg then there are existing sales for Sur Ron's in the US I would wager.There are way more surrons in the USA than Vargs.
I’m December 17 2021 and got pushed to April 14. Sounds like they are pushed to dealer no matter what and this is the best we can hope for at this pointView attachment 10784
Hopefully if order gets allocated to a dealer I won't be waiting this long. EARLY December 16th order. Can't believe this garbage.
This rings some bells on the OEM mafia and ama execution of Alta.I realize that. But there are way more orders for the Varg then there are existing sales for Sur Ron's in the US I would wager.
I'm not sure the OEM's and traditional motorcycle dealerships consider the Sur Ron's serious competition yet. Most of them don't sell them and seem oblivious to the thriving sales for them here in the US.
The Varg on the other hand has been getting constant press and rave reviews since it was announced. Then the massive number of orders/deposits. I'm thinking that has gotten the attention of both the major OEM's and the US dealerships in a big way. Hence all the push back from selling direct to consumer, delivering direct to customers, and not allowing the bikes to race in AMA events.
The OEM's will do everything they can to thwart Stark and the dealerships want to make sure they are not left out of the profit taking. And now we're all being forced to go through dealerships to take delivery of the bikes.
This is where I wonder if stark can allow us to have a discount on this unit through the dealer to honor the early customers or if we have to wait for the bike with our name on it in 5 months. I mean the order gets cancelled and spit to the dealer and we pay the dealer….what difference does it make…? Just that we are locked in at a discount so we. Ow have to wait?Stark dealer in Flagstaff AZ just sent me info saying they had some for sale -
This is where I wonder if stark can allow us to have a discount on this unit through the dealer to honor the early customers or if we have to wait for the bike with our name on it in 5 months. I mean the order gets cancelled and spit to the dealer and we pay the dealer….what difference does it make…? Just that we are locked in at a discount so we. Ow have to wait?
You’ll receive it via message in a bottle. It’ll ship sometime in 2027.Or you could just cancel your order and instead give them hundreds (possibly thousands) of dollars for an axe.
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