Varg MX 1.2

[Theo]

Now on their website the original MX is no longer an option and you can only order the MX 1.2, which, as far as I've understood, is the MX updated with the EX improvements: 7.2 kwh battery, Arkenstone, etc.
The weight is still stated to be 118 kg like the first MX version.
The price is 500 € less than the first MX when it was released.
I wonder whether the first MX will ever get the adjustable power curves.

 

[Chadx]

 

[Chadx]

On the US website for the MX 1.2, there is a new option to choose enduro suspension rather than MX suspension. Hurray! So no need to get an EX to get enduro suspension from the factory. Interestingly, it does NOT explicitly call out wheelset size, so not sure if the 18" rear wheel is still an option on the MX 1.2. At first, I really wanted the EX with the head/tail/brake lights, but since I won't ride it on the street, really not necessary and more to break and the MX 1.2 is 4lbs lighter than the EX and about $400 USD cheaper, but the better harness, phone/cradle, and most importantly, 7.2kWh battery. Hmmm.

 

[imchrisf]

Now on their website the original MX is no longer an option and you can only order the MX 1.2, which, as far as I've understood, is the MX updated with the EX improvements: 7.2 kwh battery, Arkenstone, etc.
The weight is still stated to be 118 kg like the first MX version.
The price is 500 € less than the first MX when it was released.
I wonder whether the first MX will ever get the adjustable power curves.

I would like the power curves, but I really want the enhanced maps that come with the EX. I end up having my phone mounted on the bar along side the stark one because I cant keep the map open on the stark device.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Lots of upgrades, pretty much everything the Enduro version got.

 

[Chadx]

I cant keep the map open on the stark device.

You can. See our threads on it.

 

[Bpspecs]

If you pick enduro suspension option over mx. Do you still get the new mid stroke valving update?

 

[Bpspecs]

Plus what is the major difference between mx and enduro suspension option?

 

[Border Dave]

And still no traction control.

 

[Beagle]

Thinking about battery capacity improvement, I took a look at what happened with 21700-type batteries (as used in the Varg). Following examples are from leading supplier Molicel with their release year, capacity and energy density.

2021: P42B 4.2 Ah, 226 Wh/kg
2023: P45B 4.5, 242 Wh/kg
2024 P50B 5.0 Ah, 260 Wh/kg
2025: P60B 6.0 Ah (energy density not officially announced, likely at least 290 Wh/kg)

Max discharge rate (think max power available) and max charge rate (shorter charging times) keep increasing as well.
For instance P60B can be fully charged at 5 C in 13 min

Here is what the Varg battery capacity is (or would be) with 400 of these various cells:
2021 P42B: 6.0 kWh (used in 2022 Varg prototype)
2023 P45B: 6.5 kWh (used in 2023 Varg MX)
2024 P50B: 7.2 kWh (similar cells used in 2025 Varg EX and MX 1.2 from unspecified supplier)
2025 P60B: 8.6 kWh (not yet in production)

That's 43% capacity increase in 4 years, about 10% per year.

That's no pie in the sky solid state batteries everyone is pouring millions in that may or may not become a commercial reality in the next 10 years, that's actual improvement with current technology.

TLDR: current trend suggests doubling battery capacity (therefore range) about every 10 years.

 

[Johnny Depp]

1 hour charger and power adjustment coming this year per Anton on the Swapmoto vlog.

 

[Beagle]

Hey @Philip no Stark media kit this time around?

Anyway it just makes sense, they had to unify their logistics, no point in keeping 2 different battery packs, 2 different phones and so on.

Besides getting EX improvement the only novelty I've spotted is understandably "lap mode" but it should be available for MX 1.0 as well so yeah, MX 1.2 is appropriate, it's an update to EX level.

They've just released 2 range vids, see Michael Hicks and Carson Brown ride the MX 1.2