Stark mobile charger is out !

Lasercat

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Be interesting to see what they're asking for it as a standalone item. Would love to have a portable charger for my EX.

IMO the EX should have shipped with this charger instead of the stand.

Only thing better would be to have the charger onboard...
 

Theo

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In the comments of their YouTube video "bending the rules" they have stated that it's compatible with the EX and MX models. Our @Erwin P has asked for confirmation about the compatibility with the MX 1.0 and I think that it is compatible since the part numbers for the chargers of the 1.0 and the 1.2 are the same.
In that video, when they show the adapter for charging stations, it seems to me that it just mates to a common Shucko plug and some people have already shown that this solution works with the standard charger that we have. I guess that we can buy that adapter from them and use it with our standard charger; of course I would want their approval to do so.
 

szczur333

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In the comments of their YouTube video "bending the rules" they have stated that it's compatible with the EX and MX models. Our @Erwin P has asked for confirmation about the compatibility with the MX 1.0 and I think that it is compatible since the part numbers for the chargers of the 1.0 and the 1.2 are the same.
In that video, when they show the adapter for charging stations, it seems to me that it just mates to a common Shucko plug and some people have already shown that this solution works with the standard charger that we have. I guess that we can buy that adapter from them and use it with our standard charger; of course I would want their approval to do so.
type2 adapter to schuko isnt something new - you can buy one on aliexpress for about 15-20$

inside you have diode + 2-3 resistors and thats it, if you ride with friends you can always build custom adapter like TYPE2 to 3x or 6x schuko - with 22kW charging point you can charge 6 bikes simultaneously with full power

charger picture and specs from stark future instagram

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Bodo

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2.2kg is indeed very light for a 3.3kW charger. The Tiecheng used in the MX/EX stand weighs in at 6.4kg - just the bare unit without cables.

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The portable charger also seems to have a small loop in the housing to attach a small cable lock to the bike. Convenient if you charge you bike during lunch out of sight in a public space.
 

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This 3.3 kW charger looks way smaller than the 0.66 kW onboard charger that was intended for the 2025 Husqvarna Pioneer that may never see the light of day.
It should be easy to put onboard next models, may just need to provide access to some air.

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Beagle

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It would be nice if its price didn't go over $500.
Let's hope it doesn't cost $1,000 like the large charger that comes with the EX or MX.
Well, the original charger was an off-the-shelf part wrapped in a custom case but this one looks like it's been developed in-house (or at least custom-made).

With electronics, smaller is generally more expensive but one can always hope.

I must say the Varg SM is not really a surprise but I had been wondering about its charger for a while and that's the best solution they could have offered after onboard charger (which would have demanded more design and hardware adaptations and would have translated in less parts in common with the other Vargs).
 

Bodo

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It would be nice to have the feature to use three of these chargers in parallel to make use of an 11kW charging station in full at less than 2C for the '7.2kWh' battery.

Zero offered that with 1kW chargers. It didn't take off, because these chargers cost €885 + Y-cable at €295. For 4.7kW (4x + onboard), you'd need to spend €4425.
I'd love to have witnessed that meeting, where they decided the pricing.

It'll be easy for Stark Future to compete while gaining trust for their accessory- and spare parts pricing.
 

szczur333

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It would be nice to have the feature to use three of these chargers in parallel to make use of an 11kW charging station in full at less than 2C for the '7.2kWh' battery.

Zero offered that with 1kW chargers. It didn't take off, because these chargers cost €885 + Y-cable at €295. For 4.7kW (4x + onboard), you'd need to spend €4425.
I'd love to have witnessed that meeting, where they decided the pricing.

It'll be easy for Stark Future to compete while gaining trust for their accessory- and spare parts pricing.
unlikely - wires from charge port are 2,5mm^2 - also fuses in inverter are 20A, so even with two chargers you will be at 100% of capability of these, so maybe 16-18A with updated firmware
also lets assume hardware/wiring is capable of more - then probably cells will be not, so 2C maybe will be avaible from only 0 to 40%, and you have to remember - you will want charge battery after some ride - after ride battery will be already very warm
 

OpaTsupa

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It seems that everyone who has to trip over the barge that is the stand+charger is impressed by the new portable charger, BUT:
A street rider considering the Varg for the first time will reasonably ask why wasn't it possible to fit such a small unit into the bike.
Plenty of easy answers for those familiar with the timeline, but the simple answer is: they should have done it.
The SM isn't a competition bike, and the penalty of redesign shouldn't have affected intended use.
 

Erwin P

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I don't know if the SM isn't a competition bike though. There sure are plenty of competitions for it to race in.
However building that somewhere under the seat shouldn't have been to hard. Nice thing would have been if it was placed under the seat, but could be removed for competition use.

I'm still considering an EX to be both my MX and commuter bike. Should be a blast to ride that to work, but the charging situation has been a big hurdle so far. Still isn't great, but workable at least. This could even make it a decent TET tourer for those looking for lightweight and silence.
 

DaveAusNor

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I'm still considering an EX to be both my MX and commuter bike.
I would still buy an EX over the SM for my use as I do still ride MX and the SM suspension wouldn't fair as well there. Also the forks look a little strange on the brake caliper side, it might not be so easy to change the caliper position between a SM brake disc and MX disc

the penalty of redesign shouldn't have affected intended use
I think the biggest penalty of redesign here is time and part compatibility across their models. I think it was a good move to release the SM for orders asap.

I personally don't need to carry a charger for my commute, and those that do will be fine putting this charger in a backback or strapping it somewhere on the bike. On the plus side, it means that there is a portable charger for the rest of us!
 
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