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10-4. I follow you now. Well, if Stark is charging a line item listed as "Sales Tax", they are not pocketing anything from that as that would be illegal. They have to turn that over to the entity (State or Local/City) for which they are collecting tax on behalf. So no way a tax can be an added...

The June 01, 2022 price bump was $1,000 increase and the prices have not gone up since then. The classy thing was they announced the June 01 price increase on May 29, so that gave anyone sitting on the fence, or wanting to order a second bike, three days to order at the original price before the...

Yeah, making a kickstand taller is much easier, and less permanent, than making one shorter. And even with one too short, it's easy to find a way to stand it on varied terrain compared to one that is too long. Besides, no gas, etc. so even with no kickstand, if there is no tree or post to lean...

@Philip Curious why you didn't just order the bike with LHRB from the factory? Or did you order this because you ordered your bike with foot brake lever and wanted to try out both and then decide which you prefer? I just went ahead and order LHRB from the start since I'm already used to that...

5,700watts continuous on gas (5,100watts continuous on propane) is plenty for the 3,300watt Varg charger. Biggest complaint seems to be the thing arriving smashed and bent or buyers receiving what appear to be "returned units" that have fluids in them that spill during shipping. Too bad it's...

Same. I'm 165 without gear and ordered the lightest spring/setup they offer since I'm only trail/enduro and zero MX. Will probably still need to revalve, and maybe re-spring, but the lightest they offer from the factory is a good starting point. Since Stark offers enduro wheel/tire, I wish they...

I agree with that. We've owned a couple Surron LBX for the last few years and even modded to 21" front wheel/tire, taller/nicer seat, suspension lift, etc. it is basically just a pit bike. I love it on slow, tight single track, but the suspension just beats you up. By the time I run down the...

Still curious as to what date you ordered. I'd give the website one more check with an "F5 reload" to make sure it's refreshing and then reach out to customer support. It makes no sense that a pre-order would show an estimated date of November 2024 if an order placed today has an estimated...

100% agree that dealership order fulfillment should be based on the date those orders were made. All orders should be fulfilled in the order they were made.

Yeah, realistically it's the "includes" part that is important. They should probably have even said the first day. I ordered my first one on the first day Dec. 14 early morning when the announcement was first made, and mine is still scheduled for Sept. 2023. If I recall correctly, about 1/4 of...

When they first announced that, they said that preorders can still be transferred to any dealership. As long as they still have allocation, you can probably still do so. You'd have to figure out impacts to cost, of course. Some had checked and transferring upped the price to the current price...

Agreed. I'm hoping dates do not move sooner for selfish reason (outlined above) but would be happy for all the rest of you wanting your orders ASAP. Another silver lining will be no longer having to wade through the monotonous "When are you deliverying?" responses to every single update and...

That duration delay seems like the bump that all of us got a year ago. Had you checked your status since that bump? There have not been any big recent moves. And, what was your order date and did you order through the website or a dealership? Edit: Something seems fishy there. If you go order...

Stark news letter went out today. First bikes have shipped today 4/25. I just looked and both my orders slid by only 10 days, which I'm fine with since the "first bike delivered" date moved by almost a month. That is very little impact. Ordered: Dec 14, 2021. Estimated delivery: Sept 30, 2023...

I've been thinking through my options as well. Have had a Surron LBX for years now (had two, but sold one last year). Have Varg coming (ordered morning of first day) and plan to get it, but have been thinking long and hard about replacing the Surron LBX with a Surron Ultra Bee. Even though I've...

I like that Cake styles things a bit different. I come and go on the styling, but as more and more bikes are coming out it's nice to see some quirky, different looking brands/models. Why make a carbon copy of every other bike? Some will appreciate something that looks different than everything...

Will note that the batter spec is 40Ah, not 50Ah (shows it on the side of the bike and in the specs) 72v x 40Ah = 2,880Wh (they round it to 2,9kWh). I love the color and warming up to the looks on this one. Too bad it was a limited edition and is sold out. I like that they offered nice specs...

I saw the newsletter, too. To clarify, the newsletter was not a notification of the first delivery, which has not yet taken place. It simply noted that Brian is the first customer (read: first order) and gave more background on that and the trip. This was not a "first delivery has been made"...

Orders opened 12/14/2021 to general public.

Was this a website order or a dealer order? And how were you notified (dealer, email, or reviewed your order on the website)? Had the estimated delivery date on your order moved when most others moved towards the end of last year? I placed one of my orders on Dec. 14 first thing as the...