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For those whose dealerships are charging "doc fees" etc. (mine is not), I'm curious to hear final outcome if you push back and say you won't pay a penny more than the original agreement? What are dealerships doing? Obviously they have no control over, and not wiggle room on, passthrough costs...

I'm in southwest MT and Hi-Tech Motorsports in Billings is the closest dealership. I didn't get to choose the dealership. Stark assigns the dealership based on your address in their system. They assign the closest dealership to that. I suspect it's a "change your address it changes the assigned...

If you had your address set to MT address in Stark's order system, I would have expected them to assign a MT dealership to you. Curious if you had CA or MT in their online system? They were not verifying State of legal residency or shipping addresses that I know of. You might still be able to...

You would have paid the exact same sales tax online even even if your Varg shipped direct to your door. When you check out on the website, it would have charged you the appropriate State sales tax. Varg being delivered through a dealership has no impact on the State sales tax you will pay.

Yep. Same here. Super excited until I read it. Even though they say in big type "General Payment Instruction" and have a fake order number and name shown (Name is: Test Customer), I'm sure there will be some misinterpretation. Stark probably won't mind if a bunch of preorder holders pay in...

The email you pasted above is not an invoice. It's just generic instructions they emailed to everyone. I received the same thing. I did not receive an invoice yet (I ordered the first day and have an estimated delivery of Jan 15 like you). Or did you also receive an actual invoice or request for...

I've not received my personal payment email yet, but Stark just sent out an email with General Payment Instructions, I assume to everyone. GENERAL PAYMENT INSTRUCTIONS Dear Stark Future Customer, for your safety and security, we kindly request that you adhere to the...

Agreed that order numbers have nothing to do with VIN. Order numbers are not consecutive either so no way of telling your order placement, or where you are in line, by order number. I have multiple orders and other than the first two letters being the buyers initials, the remaining five digits...

This will be a fun one to watch progress.

Nice work! Looks like a grueling one.

Yes, the latest updates to everyone's estimated deliver dates, came out a couple days ago. That is what got this thread buzzing again. Most have moved 2 to 2.5 months out. Mine moved from Sept 30 to Dec. 15 (I ordered within hours of order website opening on Dec. 14, 2021). I have other orders...

The alternative would have been them saying "We have no idea when we'll be able to deliver" which would not have been any better of an end user experience. They gave their best "estimated delivery date" based on the info they had at the time. As things came up, they adjusted the "estimated...

Fully agree that Stark should be communicating the delays better (similar to how they did the first delays). As for the Tesla comparison, I'm not saying anything is "okay". I'm simply comparing how Tesla takes deposits/preorders and doesn't even try to predict an exact delivery date. They...

They are Dmd if they do and Dmd if they don't state targeted/estimated delivery dates. I don't think it would have been any better of an experience if they do what Tesla does and not even provide an expected date. Just say, sometime in the next 3 years you might get it. Ha. Obviously, all...

Correct. Stark has co firmed via email to several people that a person can push your delivery date later if desired.

It was only $100 to hold a spot in line for a product that would obviously have delays. Not like we had to pay for the entire bike up front and then wait years and years. $100 is the price of a nice dinner out or a tank of fuel in the pickup. For that you get a front row seat into the life cycle...

Sorry if the ribbing about it being "click-baity" title landed the wrong way. I was just trying to suggest a simple title change to make it easier for forum users to find your thread and content that they are interested in as this is definitely a topic that people have questions on. "Yes or no?"...

I assume by "useable" you mean to charge an electric dirtbike, but to answer (and since you are posting in the General section), we need to know the specs of the charger you are plugging into it. Or at least what bike you are plugging in and if it's a stock charger. That also doesn't say if the...

Wanted to get the word directly from Stark rather than speculate. Here is my email and their response.... Chad Aug 14, 2023, 15:37 GMT+2 Hi, I have a Varg on preorder (first day order). Some buyers have reported being surprised by extra taxes when they go to make their final payment for...

Nice. I've heard others mention they want the rear brake to be actuated by both a LH lever and foot lever and that there were various ways to tie the two together and they've done that one their other bikes. Will be interesting to hear and see how every accomplishes with both home-made kits and...