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[Fog 25]

Fog did something fun and interesting today in the pits. He started in map one and held the throttle steady at a constant speed ~20mph. Without any more throttle he clicked up on the maps and it accelerated as if he was twisting the throttle! It's a new left hand thumb throttle!

You forgot (patent pending) on the left hand thumb throttle and head covers.

 

[MotoMinded]

Moto Minded,
I would like a key eliminater which uses push button or a toggle switch! Am I the only one who thinks a key on the mx and mxr bikes are silly?!?! Also even though it took a couple minutes to cut a phone screen protector, pre cut ones would be cool. I also was scared too much sun would ruin the screen, so fog made us some awesome Velcro head unit covers. Tested it in my pickup a highway speeds! When I get a chance I'll take a photo, but it's real nice and shades the screen when the bike is exposed to sun!

I agree the key is silly. I'll have to dig. I am still having trouble getting the time to hack into the throttle system.
For sure there is room for improvement for the main display. I love the ideas posted here.

 

[Fod]

I agree the key is silly. I'll have to dig. I am still having trouble getting the time to hack into the throttle system.
For sure there is room for improvement for the main display. I love the ideas posted here.

Cool...if and when that key eliminator becomes a product you offer I will be first in line!!!!

 

[Judaslefourbe]

I strongly recommend NOT digging into the "throttle system" because of the many consequences it can have, but you guys do what you will.
As for the switch, make sure it is IP67, 3 poles.

 

[WoodsWeapon]

I strongly recommend digging into the "throttle system" because of the many consequences it can have, but you guys do what you will.
As for the switch, make sure it is IP67, 3 poles.

I dont think you worded that correctly.

 

[Philip]

You guys crack me up all you need to do is leave it in maps 4 and learn to control it with your right hand
Go out and practice in each map you can learn the feel of each map and that way you know which map you are in.
It’s a lot like asking which gear you on in on a gas bike?

I just realized that this advice is coming from a guy who installed a 14-tooth front sprocket to make his 4th gear usable. Good job figuring this out, BTW!

 

[snydes]

I dont think you worded that correctly.

 

[Philip]

I dont think you worded that correctly.

I think he spoke the truth about the many consequences. If we hack the throttle we can start making our own riding maps. I want a map that starts as Map 2 but ends as Map 4 at higher speeds. The drop-off in torque at 25mph is annoying. This is what is causing the tired right wrist and the goon-style throttle twisting on straightaways. It is possible to tune the Redshift to maintain the same torque until 35mph, the battery and the motor can support it, no problem.

 

[MotoMinded]

We can all assume Lyndon and Ty are running/testing a new map setup. *Lyndon said this should be available to owners in the future. I am specifically interested in what Lyndon called the "tractor map" he has been testing. (I am quite sure I am not getting anyone in trouble mentioning this) He described a mushy traction map to help over boulders and extreme technical conditions. Similar to slipping a clutch constantly. I personally would love something like this for the technical downhill I am riding.
Overall let's all have our fingers crossed that Alta will roll out different profile maps for us.

One the new electronics development front. I have been hitting every direction I can go get contact with an engineer at Alta. They are basically under lock-down. So the chance of getting my many questions answered OR getting access "under the hood" as far as the throttle and programming will be nil. So I am going to risk my warranty and start digging into this throttle system soon.

 

[MotoMinded]

Ride update with new products installed and suspension tuning.


New additions since the last ride:
- 18" rear with a broke in bib and 1/2 used Dunlop MX52
- 14 tooth counter, 52 rear by DDC
- RK chain
- BRP Hand Guard Mouns
- BRP Pro Line Chain Guide
- Cycra Pro Bend Handguards
- MotoMinded Speedo Relocator
- MotoMinded bracket to run KTM mask
- Double Take Trail Mirror
- Alta Skid Plate
- Longer front brake line to get the line in front of the headlight mask and speedo.
- I have been adjusting pressures spring pre-load, compression clicker on the front to get a really great stable trail suspension setting for my 175lb weight with gear. I will schedule a trail/work day with Enduro Spec to tune these in better.

I feel range was slightly better due to many reasons. - I am getting used to the bike so I am smoother, suspension is at a "good trail setting", taller gearing, bib and better rear traction.

Heading up trail in #1 again. I did not wish for more torque, just traction. There was a big section of flowy trail that I wished I was lower in the motor rpm.

Future additions:
Protection by Bullet Proof. Discs and suspension linkage.
Taller gearing. (yes, I said that ) I am going to try a taller gearing to see if I can get to more of a tractor feel.
I am going to plate this thing so I can try to ride from my shop. (another reason for taller gearing) With that I need to add horn, tail light with plate holder, rear brake pressure switch, our Ultimate LED kit, and borrow some DOT tires. *Turn signals not needed in CO

Thanks for reading!

 

[Philip]

Thanks for sharing, Chris. I had no idea you were as deep into all this Alta stuff as we are. It's great to have you on our side!

 

[MotoMinded]

Thanks man. I love this bike the more I modify it. I want to only sell products that I know and have tested.

Thanks for sharing, Chris. I had no idea you were as deep into all this Alta stuff as we are. It's great to have you on our side!

 

[Judaslefourbe]

I dont think you worded that correctly.

Sorry. Fixed.

 

[Mark911]

I'm reading that many owners want the best of both worlds. Great tractor like low end with enough top end speed to ride down the freeway. I gotta tell you, the Alta is good but it has limitations. Can you crank in 100 amps at almost zero motor rpm? Probably. Do you want to? I wouldn't, unless you like the smell of burnt motor windings! The Alta is like those "hub drive" electric bicycles. They're pretty darn good until you try and start out on a steep hill. At almost stall motor speed the amps shoot up and the motor begins to fry. That's why all the good e-bikes (Bosch, Yamaha, etc) put their power through the standard derailleurs. The downside of these power systems is complexity, weight and cost.

Alta, like all OEMs, had to make compromises. The decisions regarding the design of the motor (and support systems) probably weren't that much different than any of the big 5. All electric motors are not created equal. Some are slow speed torquers, others are high speed demons and everything in between. Nothing does everything well, gas or electric. That's why transmissions were created. Obviously, Alta decided that the advantages of a "gearless" system outweighed the disadvantages.

And to their credit, they developed an integrated system which really stretched the limitations of a "gearless" drive system. In fact, I'd bet most of us would say it's better than our ICE bikes in almost every respect, save a few. Trying to stretch the operating envelope even further into conditions that the motor was not designed to accommodate doesn't sound like a good idea to me. At least not until we have access to a bunch more data via the onboard data loggers.

I suspect that there's programable "governors" regulating all the critical performance parameters anyway. To make any meaningful changes you'll need to gain access to these first or figure out some workaround. Not easy to do without assistance from Alta.

 

[MotoMinded]

Great weekend testing our new accessories. Most available here at our Alta collection LINK>>
18" rear rim and tire
Enduro Mousse bibs
Hand guards by Cycra Racing
Hand Guard Mounts by BRP
Hardened threaded bar inserts by BRP
Bullet Proof Designs front disc guard & linkage guard
Taller gearing by DDC 14 x 52

 

[MotoMinded]

got a quick photo shoot in with my buddy Don Karle Photography.

 

[MotoMinded]

@Philip can we do polls on this forum?
My MX-R is at BRP so they can design a submout for a Scotts damper . We discussed options for mounting the sub tower for the steering damper.
Option 1, The low hanging fruit is to drill into the frame. BRP has sold thousands of this type of tower mounts for the Yamaha bikes.
Option 2, U shaped bracket for the tower around the frame with no drilling in the frame. *more material, more machining processes = more $
What is the thoughts of the group here?

 

[gprix1]

@Philip can we do polls on this forum?
My MX-R is at BRP so they can design a submout for a Scotts damper . We discussed options for mounting the sub tower for the steering damper.
Option 1, The low hanging fruit is to drill into the frame. BRP has sold thousands of this type of tower mounts for the Yamaha bikes.
Option 2, U shaped bracket for the tower around the frame with no drilling in the frame. *more material, more machining processes = more $
What is the thoughts of the group here?

If it were me, I would tig-weld a post onto the frame. Fortunately, I was able to get my Ohlins to work on the Alta.

 

[snydes]

IMO option 2

 

[WoodsWeapon]

No preference for me, either one is acceptable.