AMA and Electric Motorcycles in AMA races

[Beagle]

MXEP, electric class thought off by Infront without consulting any electric manufacturer, and foreseen for 2026, is DOA.

Here is what Luongo said to Moto Verte:

Still no plan to integrate electric motorcycles into MXGP?
"No! The decision was made by us, but also by all motorsports on earth! There's no point mixing two engine types, two different technologies. It's not meant to be. Afterwards, we gave the possibility to create a separate championship following this "green" wave, but we don't feel any desire from the manufacturers nor any interest from the public. It's fine for having fun on the weekend without making noise, but in elite sport, with the passion of our fans, it doesn't seem appropriate to me."

Stark wasn't interested and other manufacturers are not ready yet so I don't know who would have raced anyway. Honda CR electric, or its production cousin, might be further away than what we thought.

Full points for the BS argument that nobody mixes electrics with ICE when Starks are racing all over Europe, Australia, South America and in FIM Superenduro world championship.

 

[Beagle]

David Herbreteau finished 12th in France MX Elite 1st round, that was a 30 min race (25 min + 2 laps). Against riders like Renaux, Febvre, Desprey.

Round 1 was the first time a Varg competed in France Elite championship.
Now at round 2 there will be 4 Vargs:
Herbreteau and Irsuti in MX1
Wade and Jayal in MX2

 

[Beagle]

France Elite MX, round 2

In MX1 Irsuti signed the first top 10 for Stark with 10th overall (10/12), things went sideways for Herbreteau in race 1 but he had similar pace to his teammate in race 2 for 15th overall (24/11).

In MX2 Wade showed some potential, DNF race 1 but 9th in race 2 got him 25th overall (still better than his rookie teammate Jayal in 36th).

Top10 in 30 min races in MX1 and MX2 at round 2, let's see where they go from there

 

[UKLee]

France Elite MX, round 2

In MX1 Irsuti signed the first top 10 for Stark with 10th overall (10/12), things went sideways for Herbreteau in race 1 but he had similar pace to his teammate in race 2 for 15th overall (24/11).

In MX2 Wade showed some potential, DNF race 1 but 9th in race 2 got him 25th overall (still better than his rookie teammate Jayal in 36th).

Top10 in 30 min races in MX1 and MX2 at round 2, let's see where they go from there

" Top10 in 30 min races in MX1 and MX2 at round 2"
30 minute races in a national championship, my kids can use a full battery in 20 minutes and nothing like that level. Must be some special battery not what us paying customers get.

 

[Beagle]

" Top10 in 30 min races in MX1 and MX2 at round 2"
30 minute races in a national championship, my kids can use a full battery in 20 minutes and nothing like that level. Must be some special battery not what us paying customers get.

They could be using the 7.2 kWh battery with factory software without limping mode, I don't expect anything much fancier than that. Curious to see if they can run 30 min at all tracks this year, so far 2 on 2.

 

[Theo]

" Top10 in 30 min races in MX1 and MX2 at round 2"
30 minute races in a national championship, my kids can use a full battery in 20 minutes and nothing like that level. Must be some special battery not what us paying customers get.

I'm not an expert but I have learnt something about those batteries and I doubt that they could have available anything so different from what we have. Just check the specifications of the battery of the Ducati V21L used in MotoE, where probably they are willing to spend more money: the energy density is nothing special:
https://www.ducati.com/gb/en/company/innovation/moto-e/prototype
expand the section "01. Battery pack".

 

[Beagle]

I'm not an expert but I have learnt something about those batteries and I doubt that they could have available anything so different from what we have. Just check the specifications of the battery of the Ducati V21L used in MotoE, where probably they are willing to spend more money: the energy density is nothing special:
https://www.ducati.com/gb/en/company/innovation/moto-e/prototype
expand the section "01. Battery pack".

Agreed, I don't see any motorcycle manufacturer going with anything other than commercial cells. They have neither knowledge nor means. Their innovation comes from the rest, the pack, module integration, electronics but not the core cells who are the main component dictating range. The other parts can optimize range, not revolutionize it.

Except maybe Honda, thanks to their car division, motorcycle sales are too tiny to deserve this on their own.