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Aren't radial street tires heavier? And they're not of the same dimensions. 17" street wheels may be heavier? Beefed up calipers, beefed up triple clamp, could be heavier forks and shock maybe?
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Erwin P
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17' wheels are always way heavier.
Way wider rims, and the flat part of the rims have to be way thicker because flat is weaker than bends. Tyres are also much wider and thicker.
My 17' SM set is multiple kg's heavier than my MX/Enduro sets.
Way wider rims, and the flat part of the rims have to be way thicker because flat is weaker than bends. Tyres are also much wider and thicker.
My 17' SM set is multiple kg's heavier than my MX/Enduro sets.
oh nice explanation guys... but it shouldnt be a problem for Supermoto... husq 701 and ktm 690 are 155kg bikes with 70hp... the varg sm is a beast
The smaller charger is a game changer, im going to buy it when available... phone holder is thinner and more minimalistic, maybe compatible with EX too...
Gearing is 14/47 with 154kmh top speed. Suspension travel is a little big in my opinion, they didnt change de 303mm rear and just cut the front from 303 to 290mm... i think the ktm 690 has 260mm front, anyway...
overall Stark is going in a good direction and this is just the beggining
The smaller charger is a game changer, im going to buy it when available... phone holder is thinner and more minimalistic, maybe compatible with EX too...
Gearing is 14/47 with 154kmh top speed. Suspension travel is a little big in my opinion, they didnt change de 303mm rear and just cut the front from 303 to 290mm... i think the ktm 690 has 260mm front, anyway...
overall Stark is going in a good direction and this is just the beggining
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On track i've seen that, even with me as a beginner, it's bloody fast around the curves. Probably faster than any other SM, at the very least smoother.
And don't forget. Those other bikes face the same weight penalty for the SM setup.
And don't forget. Those other bikes face the same weight penalty for the SM setup.
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The dust moto Hightail is the bike it's 220 pounds 42 hp.
Not really...
-Its a 3/4 size. Most adults look stupid riding them. I'd look like I'd borrowed my kids bike.
-42hp is everything it's got. I ride minimum 50 on the street and 45 woods
-Cannot be road legal.
-Completely unproven platform.
-An MX 1.0 is about the same price.
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I agree 100 percent on the unproven platform I'm done waiting gunna pull trigger on the mx 1.2 if I can get a 18 rear tire which I heard I can't so the ex fully loaded.
I don't think 14/47 with 17s would even get close to 154kmh on the current motor so I wonder how inflated that number is.
It's a cleaned up Surron. Unless companies want to develop actual battery technology a 22S pack is not going to compete in performance with a 100S.
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You could also just opt for an extra wheel. You can just order that and they're not even that expensive.
I doubt it's inflated at all.
The EXs top speed is 136. With my back of a napkin maths 14/47 would get me to 162.
EX with 17" rear tire does 165 with 15/44 gearing
My stock EX 12/48 reach 137kmh... then my friend change his front sprocket to a 14 with the 48 stock rear, we did a test and when my speedometer marked 100 his marked 80, but we were going at the same speed, then we went to maximum speed, I reached 137km/h and he overtook me relatively quickly, doing quick math the calculation gave me 155kmh in the conversion... then a few days later i change my front to the same 14 and my speedometer still stops at 137 but with no doubt i feel more speed and more wind force... with 21/18 wheels it definitely reach 155 but i dont know if the SM can reach that with 14/47 and 17 wheels... maybe they reprogramed the ECU a bit...
and i want to clarify that im not sure if the SM has a 14/47 gearing, i say this because the information that appears on the Stark website in the supermoto model section says that, but it seems to me that it is a copy of the MX model.
Analyzing the images I've seen of the SM, the rear sprocket looks quite large. It's very possible that it's a 47. It doesn't seem to be a 45, 44, or 42. Those sizes look quite a bit smaller at first glance.
and i want to clarify that im not sure if the SM has a 14/47 gearing, i say this because the information that appears on the Stark website in the supermoto model section says that, but it seems to me that it is a copy of the MX model.
Analyzing the images I've seen of the SM, the rear sprocket looks quite large. It's very possible that it's a 47. It doesn't seem to be a 45, 44, or 42. Those sizes look quite a bit smaller at first glance.
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Also depending on the tyre size the 17' doesn't need to be much smaller diameter than the 18'.
Cold you give an example of a 17 road tire and an 18 enduro tire that are close to eachother in diameter?
