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Philip, I'm going to butcher your sentence - sorry :) I believe there will be very high interest among the OEMs in making electric dirt bikes seem less competitive, especially if they are kept in a "support class" and not allowed to compete at the top level with the OEM's ICE bikes (which they...

+1. I probably would've chosen gloss black if they offered it.

+1. And Zero sold @ 3.5K street-only or dual-purpose electric bikes in 2020 & were on track to sell @ 4.5K in 2022; apparently many considered them viable enough.

Here's what I just received from Stark: "You will receive a final checkout notification a few weeks prior to the delivery of your bike. On checkout, you’ll be able to choose home delivery and assemble the bike yourself or dealer delivery where they’ll have it ready for you to pick up, at no...

Me too. I asked Josh about the drop-ship to my house, he told me "I'm not really sure" but his facial expression said "don't get your hopes up". :) I think it's likely Stark will ship your online order to the nearest dealer, who will require whatever payment amount the Stark ordering system...

For me it will be. In the 45 US states with sales tax, you'd have to buy out-of-state to eliminate the tax, and there may be other laws at work too. With no sales tax, drop-shipping (if available) should be fine. There's also the possibility of dealer discounts, sometimes big ones (I got my YZ...

Got back this afternoon from my 2nd Stark demo at Big Boyz Toys in Marlboro NY. It's a mostly-offroad dealership with a lot of enthusiasm for the Stark, Alta, and electric vehicles in general, a great fit. Josh the Stark guy was there again, and provided info for upcoming demos in New England...

+1 ! We might actually get to ride one in May, not too far off

Good question... in the beginning there seemed like more of a direct-to-end-user vibe, then later we started hearing about dealers / support etc. The Stark guy said there was extensive dealer training, and this AM the guy I got my Altas from told me they'd looked into Stark, but the...

No problem - wish I had more to report. I didn't even touch the display - it seemed like the most sought-after item in the whole store. :) I'm not sure it was fully functional, as the bike was electrically dead and nothing would've been communicating.

My take is quite different. If Stark initially cuts out the dealers completely, many will vanish and never return (in my local area, at least six Zero dealers have come and gone - electric dealers can be fragile things). Also, us electric folks are a market-savvy bunch pre-ordering on faith...

I think it actually is a darker gray (Snow White on right):

Thanks! The tape measure was behind the RH peg, touching it. It was kinda hard to keep the bike perfectly vertical, so it might be off a small amount.

Very true! The shock/fork spring changeout alone would be a significant amount, and a PITA to do. I hate ripping apart a brand-new bike.

Well, for me it was about getting the Stark I wanted instead of the Stark the dealer thought might sell the quickest - and also getting a later rather than earlier one, which worked out well for me in both my Zero and Alta purchases. I'm also hoping to get the bike drop-shipped to my house...

I figured it might be a good idea to start a new thread, as there may be additional Varg sightings moving forward. I checked out the Stark yesterday (12/23/22) at Colonial Power & Sport in Milford, CT. It's a big place with a huge inventory of new Husky and KTM dirt bikes, plus Royal Enfields...

Nice!! Thanks for taking/sharing those pics.

For the CT / New England folks - just got off the phone with the sales manager at Colonial Power & Sport in Milford CT, the Stark should be there Dec. 23rd.

Here's some gummy tire info from Dirt Bike magazine. They mention Erzberg as an example, which seems strange to me as this year's event was filled with riders getting the worst traction I've ever seen. Maybe it's an FIM-tire thing (13mm max knob length).

OK, thanks for the info!